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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Matthew on June 17, 2015, 09:43:03 PM

Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: Matthew on June 17, 2015, 09:43:03 PM
If the title of this topic makes you uneasy at all, you have something to learn.

According to the SSPX website, we can pray for the pope's “objective intentions” as opposed to “personal, subjective intentions”

The six objective intentions of the Holy Father, traditionally understood, are: the exaltation of the Church, the propagation of the Faith, the extirpation of heresy, the conversion of sinners, concord between Christian princes, and the further welfare of the Christian people.
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: Matto on June 17, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
Of course we should pray for the general intentions of the Pope as defined by the Church. But I would never pray for Bergoglio's actual intentions. I think that would be a sin because he is an enemy of God.
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: poche on June 17, 2015, 10:56:43 PM
I pray for the intentions of teh Holy Father. I give my prayers to the Holy Virgin and I ask her that she make use of them inthe way that gives the greatest glory to God.
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: Capt McQuigg on June 18, 2015, 10:43:09 PM
In these times, it would be wise for all of us to spend more time in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament.  Or kneeling in prayer in front of a statue of Our Lady.  Pray for the Church and pray for priests.
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: JPaul on June 19, 2015, 01:18:18 PM
We could pray for his conversion to the Catholic Religion, then he might actually have the correct intentions.
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: Petertherock on June 20, 2015, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: J.Paul
We could pray for his conversion to the Catholic Religion, then he might actually have the correct intentions.


This is always my prayer at the end of my Rosary!
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: AlligatorDicax on June 21, 2015, 10:56:26 PM
Quote from: Matthew (Jun 17, 2015, 10:43 pm)
If the title of this topic makes you uneasy at all [....]

What, me "uneasy"?  Why, yes, indeed it does.

Quote from: Matthew (Jun 17, 2015, 10:43 pm, continued)
[...] you have something to learn.

Just because I present opinions on some issues, a reader shouldn't assume that I  believe I've already learned everything that I need to know about traditional Catholicism.

Quote from: Matthew (Jun 17, 2015, 10:43 pm, concluded)
The six objective intentions of the Holy Father, traditionally understood, are:
[#1] the exaltation of the Church, [#2] the propagation of the Faith, [#3] the extirpation of heresy, [#4] the conversion of sinners, [#5] concord between Christian princes, and [#6] the further welfare of the Christian people.

Alas, that list is from a time when the Holy Father himself was traditionally understood to act as an advocate for all 6 of those intentions.  Instead of subverting them.

So, alas, we read reports of a Francis who publicly abandons the title Patriarch of the West, thus abandoning the title Pope (#1), and colludes with representatives of eastern orthodoxy in planning to change the date of the Western-Christian Easter to one of theirs, thus rejecting the modern calculations that resulted from the reforms decreed by Pope Gregory XIII (#1); and opposes & disparages efforts to convert nonCatholics into Catholics (#2,3).  Does any reader believe that he'll be endorsing & elaborating "Mortalium Animos" (Pius XI, 1928) any time soon?   He's presumably proud of appearing as cover-boy and 2013 "Person of the Year" for The Advocate (awww, isn't that "NOH8" on his cheek so cuuute!?) (#4).  What has he really done to remedy the nasty moral scandal that's devastating to the welfare of mostly-young Catholics, which is continuing through its 3rd consecutive modernist papacy (#6)?

Ah, yes, one remains: "concord between Christian princes" (#5).  Mañana!
Title: Let us all pray for the Holy Fathers intentions
Post by: Disputaciones on June 23, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
Could someone give a source for these intentions?