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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Trinity on January 26, 2012, 10:05:49 AM

Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Trinity on January 26, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
They come here in the name of the truth.  Yet Nome de Plume's representation of Kathleen's article was so far off the mark it was a lie.  Frankly I don't think they'd know the truth if it bit them.

They came here flippant and disrespectful like a bunch of imps broadcasting accusations of high crimes and misdemeanors against the clergy.  No proof, just expecting us to take their word for it.

They came here in the name of the faithful for the sake of the faithful.  If memory serves me abortion was introduced for the sake of the raped.  That fooled many people. I'm hoping this will fool no one.

They came here prating of "rights".   Once this camel gets its nose under the tent we can expect a lot more Bill Clintons at the communion rail, for such things will be their right.

Are they even Catholic?  I can't believe that anyone who loves the Church would do this to her.  They resemble a gang from the ACLU more than any Catholic I've ever met.

I can do little but God can do much.  I am praying that He will rebuke them and forbid that they ever get the sacraments until they repent---hopefully a painful and salubrious repentence.  Furthermore it is my hope that He will make a beacon on the hill of them to warn all others away from these shoals.  

I consider this the most serious attack on the Church since Vatican II.  A few good and brave souls preserved the Church for us then.  Now it is our turn and if we fail we will at the least bring great hardship on her.  IF you want the Mass for yourself and your progeny then get in on this.  If you don't feel you can actively battle then do it passively.  It will cost you nothing to hit that hide button and not peek.  Don't even think you can remain silent and not share the guilt of these mouthpieces.

Someone once said the price of freedom is eternal vigilance and we know that to be true of our salvation.   So be vigilant!

And let them be anathema.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Lover of Truth on January 26, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
2 For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    This rule, which God will infallibly follow, should put a check to the freedom with which we so frequently condemn our neighbor. (Haydock) --- As we behave towards our neighbors, interpreting their actions with charitableness, and excusing their intentions with mildness; or, on the contrary, judging them with severity, and condemning them without pity; so shall we receive our judgment. (Menochius) --- As the pardon of our sins is proportioned to the pardon we afford to others, so also will our judgment be proportioned to the judgment we pass on others. If our neighbour be surprised by sin, we must not reproach or confound him for it, but mildly admonish him. Correct your brother, not as an enemy, taking revenge, but as a physician, administering appropriate remedies, assisting him with prudent counsels, and strengthening him in the love of God. (St. Chrysostom)

Augustine: Since when these temporal things are provided beforehand against the future, it is uncertain with what purpose it is done, as it may be with a single or double mind, He opportunely subjoins, "Judge not."

Pseudo-Chrysostom: Otherwise; He has drawn out thus far the consequences of his injunctions of almsgiving; He now takes up those respecting prayer. And this doctrine is in a sort of continuation of that of the prayer; as though it should run, "Forgive us our debts," and then should follow, "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

Jerome: But if He forbids us to judge, how then does Paul judge the Corinthian who had committed uncleanness? Or Peter convict Ananias and Sapphira of falsehood?

Pseudo-Chrysostom: But some explain this place after a sense, as though the Lord did not herein forbid Christians to reprove others out of good will, but only intended that Christians should not despise Christians by making a show of their own righteousness, hating others often on suspicion alone, condemning them, and pursuing private grudges under the show of piety.

Chrysostom: Wherefore He does not say, 'Do not cause a sinner to cease,' but do not judge; that is, be not a bitter judge; correct him indeed, but not as an enemy seeking revenge, but as a physician applying a remedy.

Pseudo-Chrysostom: But that not even thus should Christians correct Christians is shewn by that expression, "Judge not."

    But if they do not thus correct, shall they therefore obtain forgiveness of their sins, because it is said, "and ye shall not be judged?" For who obtains forgiveness of a former sin, by not adding another thereto? This we have said, desiring to shew that this is not here spoken concerning not judging our neighbor who shall sin against God, but who may sin against ourselves. For whoso does not judge his neighbor who has sinned against him, him shall not God judge for his sin, but will forgive him his debt even as he forgave.

Chrysostom: Otherwise; He does not forbid us to judge all sin absolutely, but lays this prohibition on such as are themselves full of great evils, and judge others for very small evils. In like manner Paul does not absolutely forbid to judge those that sin, but finds fault with disciples that judged their teacher, and instructs us not to judge those that are above us.

Hilary: Otherwise; He forbids us to judge God touching His promises; for as judgments among men are founded on things uncertain, so this judgment against God is drawn from somewhat that is doubtful. And He therefore would have us put away the custom from us altogether; for it is not here as in other cases where it is sin to have given a false judgment; but here we have begun to sin if we have pronounced any judgment at all.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Trinity on January 26, 2012, 12:22:34 PM
You are new, sohave no idea what we have been put through by these charlatans.  A public sin needs public repentence and a threat to one's well being requires measures of self defence.  With hold your judgment until you know more of the situation.  If, as I suspect, Cathinfohas become known as a happy hunting ground for insurgents, then woe to Cathinfo.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Trinity on January 27, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
Just in case they come back I'm bumping this.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: SJB on January 27, 2012, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: Trinity
They came here prating of "rights". Once this camel gets its nose under the tent we can expect a lot more Bill Clintons at the communion rail, for such things will be their right.


So you treat Catholics as non-Catholics, if they don't agree with the clergy you follow?
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Elizabeth on January 30, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Trinity
They came here prating of "rights". Once this camel gets its nose under the tent we can expect a lot more Bill Clintons at the communion rail, for such things will be their right.


So you treat Catholics as non-Catholics, if they don't agree with the clergy you follow?


Go back to VoV Watch where your twisted writing is appreciated.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: TKGS on January 30, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
Did you inadvertently hit the "NEW TOPIC" button rather than the "REPLY" button?  I have no idea what you're talking about.

What is VoV Watch?
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: SJB on January 30, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Trinity
They came here prating of "rights". Once this camel gets its nose under the tent we can expect a lot more Bill Clintons at the communion rail, for such things will be their right.


So you treat Catholics as non-Catholics, if they don't agree with the clergy you follow?


Go back to VoV Watch where your twisted writing is appreciated.


Actually, Catholics do have certain rights. There's nothing "liberal" about it, the ignorant Trinity suggests.

And you Elizabeth, are clearly obsessed.
Title: Let them be anathema
Post by: Elizabeth on January 30, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: TKGS
Did you inadvertently hit the "NEW TOPIC" button rather than the "REPLY" button?  I have no idea what you're talking about.

What is VoV Watch?


Google it up.  

  It is one of the vile backbiting sites defended by SJB.  They are about hating Dolan and Cekada.  They are shrines to hatred.  Check out Hobble's threads for links.