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Offline Persto

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Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2025, 12:08:44 PM »
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    • https://x.com/Pontifex/status/1925167190791123219


    Pope Leo XIV
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    Today, in a special way, we remember our beloved #PopeFrancis with deep gratitude, who exactly one month ago returned to the Father’s house. He accompanies us and prays for the Church from Heaven.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #31 on: May 21, 2025, 12:39:34 PM »
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    • https://www.gloria.tv/en.news

    "The speech that Leo XIV addressed to representatives of other ecclesial communities and religions disappointed and saddened me", writes AldoMariavalli.it (May 19). He speaks of "the first disappointment.

    "I had hoped for a change of course from the infamous Bergoglian watchwords on universal brotherhood, ecuмenism and synodality."

    But: "Instead the pope confirmed everything, and he did so by quoting Bergoglio's docuмents verbatim, including the ill-fated Abu Dhabi declaration."

    Valli refers to several quotes from Leo XIV's speech:

    - "One of the strong points of Pope Francis' pontificate has been that of universal fraternity. On this the Holy Spirit has really 'pushed' him to make progress."

    - "Aware that synodality and ecuмenism are closely linked, I wish to assure you of my intention to continue Pope Francis' efforts to promote the synodal character of the Catholic Church."

    - "You have witnessed the remarkable efforts made by Pope Francis in favor of interreligious dialogue."




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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #32 on: May 22, 2025, 04:18:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 16, 2025, 11:27:44 AM
    Here's one from May 14 (cited by TIA) ...
    There's nothing heretical about this quote.  We all commit sin and putting people into groups of "good" and "evil" is wrong. One can say that what certain people do is evil of course, but no one that God has created in His image is truly evil. 
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #33 on: May 22, 2025, 08:45:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banez123 on May 22, 2025, 04:18:59 AM
    There's nothing heretical about this quote.  We all commit sin and putting people into groups of "good" and "evil" is wrong. One can say that what certain people do is evil of course, but no one that God has created in His image is truly evil.
    Gosh, Did he ever read what Our Lord said?
    "If you being evil can give good gifts, how much more your heavenly Father?"
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #34 on: May 22, 2025, 09:21:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banez123 on May 22, 2025, 04:18:59 AM
    There's nothing heretical about this quote.  We all commit sin and putting people into groups of "good" and "evil" is wrong. One can say that what certain people do is evil of course, but no one that God has created in His image is truly evil.
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    Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can you speak good things, whereas you are evil? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

    12:35 A good man out of a good treasure bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of an evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
    By the way, do you still hold that hell may not be eternal? 
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #35 on: May 22, 2025, 03:12:35 PM »
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    • Well yeah. There's a reason why he was selected. I will, until my dying breath, be convinced that he was Francis's hand-picked successor. He's Anglophone Francis. In every way.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #36 on: May 22, 2025, 03:25:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on May 22, 2025, 03:12:35 PM
    Well yeah. There's a reason why he was selected. I will, until my dying breath, be convinced that he was Francis's hand-picked successor. He's Anglophone Francis. In every way.

    100% agreed.  Bergoglio plucked this guy out of nowhere, and I believe that the REASON he was chosen was because he was best situated to pull off the next steps in the dialectic.

    While he's a flaming Modernist, he also has very little past history, was a mystery man in a lot of ways, as per Verrechio's research.  So while Modernist, he could pull off the perception of "Well, he might be more Traddie", and then create the blend of Jorge and Ratz, the Hegelian synthesis, as it were.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #37 on: May 24, 2025, 07:42:30 PM »
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    • https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-leo-xiv-confirms-priest-who-supports-womens-ordination-as-new-bishop-of-st-gallen-switzerland/
    Pope Leo XIV confirms priest who supports ‘women’s ordination’ as new bishop of St. Gallen, Switzerland

    Pope Leo XIV confirmed the election of heretical Fr. Beat Grögli as bishop St. Gallen. Grögli said that ‘the women's priesthood will come,’ among other heterodox statements.

    Grögli was ordained a priest in 1998 by Bishop Ivo Fürer and has been the parish priest of the landmark St. Gallen cathedral since 2013. He is a strong proponent of “female ordination,” in blatant contradiction to Catholic doctrine. He has said that the Church needs “a broad roof” and, according to a report by SRF, stated in response to a diocese’s questionnaire that “The ordained ministry [Holy Orders] can no longer just be a matter for men.”

    Grögli has reportedly expressed support for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ “blessings” as well and claimed that the Church should “adapt” its teaching on marriage, sɛҳuąƖity morality, and contraception.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #38 on: May 25, 2025, 12:54:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Persto on May 24, 2025, 07:42:30 PM
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-leo-xiv-confirms-priest-who-supports-womens-ordination-as-new-bishop-of-st-gallen-switzerland/
    Pope Leo XIV confirms priest who supports ‘women’s ordination’ as new bishop of St. Gallen, Switzerland

    Pope Leo XIV confirmed the election of heretical Fr. Beat Grögli as bishop St. Gallen. Grögli said that ‘the women's priesthood will come,’ among other heterodox statements.

    Grögli was ordained a priest in 1998 by Bishop Ivo Fürer and has been the parish priest of the landmark St. Gallen cathedral since 2013. He is a strong proponent of “female ordination,” in blatant contradiction to Catholic doctrine. He has said that the Church needs “a broad roof” and, according to a report by SRF, stated in response to a diocese’s questionnaire that “The ordained ministry [Holy Orders] can no longer just be a matter for men.”

    Grögli has reportedly expressed support for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ “blessings” as well and claimed that the Church should “adapt” its teaching on marriage, sɛҳuąƖity morality, and contraception.

    And this comes from the man who used to pick the bishops from Francis.

    What else do we need? I understand that some are really ignorant, but some people are being just plain stupid by expecting some good from this Leo XIV fellow.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #39 on: May 25, 2025, 05:30:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on May 25, 2025, 12:54:56 AM
    And this comes from the man who used to pick the bishops from Francis.

    What else do we need? I understand that some are really ignorant, but some people are being just plain stupid by expecting some good from this Leo XIV fellow.
    I think the term is "willfully blind".
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #40 on: May 25, 2025, 03:32:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banez123 5/22/2025, 4:18:59 AM

    There's nothing heretical about this quote. We all commit sin and putting people into groups of "good" and "evil" is wrong. One can say that what certain people do is evil of course, but no one that God has created in His image is truly evil.


    Indeed you are correct. There are different senses and contexts when one refers to one as a good or evil.
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    Re: Leo (heresies starting to flow)
    « Reply #41 on: May 25, 2025, 03:34:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banez123 on May 22, 2025, 04:18:59 AM
    There's nothing heretical about this quote.  We all commit sin and putting people into groups of "good" and "evil" is wrong. One can say that what certain people do is evil of course, but no one that God has created in His image is truly evil.
    Indeed you are correct. There are different senses and contexts when one refers to one as a good or evil.
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