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Ladislaus · « **on:** May 16, 2025, 11:27:44 AM »

Here's one from May 14 (cited by TIA) ...

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Let us reject the Manichean notions so typical of that mindset of violence that divides the world into those who are good and those who are evil.

Incredulous · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2025, 12:46:08 PM »

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Dear TIA,

Delivering a talk on May 14, to the Prelates of Catholic Eastern Rites meeting in Rome, Pope Leo XIV affirmed that those who believe there is good and evil have “Manichaean notions.” I quote his very words:

“Those who make history are the peacemakers, not those who sow seeds of suffering. Our neighbors are not first our enemies, but our fellow human beings; not criminals to be hated, but other men and women with whom we can speak. Let us reject the Manichean notions so typical of that mindset of violence that divides the world into those who are good and those who are evil.”

Now then, if all those who distinguish between good and evil would profess “Manichean notions,” not only all Catholic Saints would be included in this category, but Our Lord Jesus Christ also. He founded the Catholic Church as a militant institution based upon the combat of good against evil, truth against error. When Pope Leo XIV makes this generic accusation, he is greatly simplifying reality and inducing Catholics into error.

Indeed, Manichaeism is wrong not because it says that there is good and evil, but because it sustains that in the beginning of everything there were two equally almighty principles, one good and one evil, which would explain good and evil in Creation as reflections of these two principles. This is the metaphysical error of Manichaeism.

The Catholic explanation for the existence of evil is different. In the beginning was only one good almighty principle, God, who created everything good. Then, one of His creatures, Satan, revolted and, throughout History, leads the cohorts of evil creatures – angels and men – against the good ones. This is the moral origin of evil. It explains perfectly the reality we have before our eyes.

So, both the Manicheans and the Catholics admit the existence of evil and good, although for opposed reasons.

When Pope Leo XIV implies that all those who admit good and evil are Manicheans, he is misleading his flock and inducing Catholics to abandon militancy and become pacifists.

Leo XIV started to show his colors very early… only six days after being elected Pope.

In Christ Jesus,

E.J.

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gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2025, 01:32:55 PM »

So what? He's Pope, by golly!!

Just pray for him and carry on with more of that modern so-called obedience, which only appears to be rank disobedience.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2025, 03:28:25 PM »

Yeah, the context is clearly relativizing good and evil.

It's not that, well, we all have a certain evil (aka privation of due good) within us. It's about the phenomenological / relativistic your truth is truth, and my truth is truth, and your moral standard is OK as long as you live by the light of your conscience (i.e. can justify your adultery or sodomy in the "internal forum"), etc.

I'm good, you're good, we're all good. Only question is whether he'll consistently apply that to Trads, whereas Bergoglio made a notable exception for Trads. All religions lead to God, except Traditional Catholicism.

Incredulous · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2025, 05:29:33 PM »

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