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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: ++Lefebvre and sedevacantism
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2019, 04:10:34 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on October 06, 2019, 04:09:04 PM
And with Francis' stacked deck, the next "pope" will make Francis look like Pius V.

Certainly, unless God intervenes.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: ++Lefebvre and sedevacantism
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2019, 04:22:57 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 06, 2019, 04:01:48 PM
Right, but while Francis would have been more lenient on the SSPX, +Lefebvre wasn't primarily about convenience.  When John Paul II got elected, the Archbishop was at first optimistic.  But when Assissi happened, that's when +Lefebvre came within a hair's breadth of becoming an open sedevacantist.  Bergoglio makes Wojtyla look like St. Pius X by comparison.
I can see how you could come to that conclusion from certain principles though, and not merely from convenience.  But again, all I'm saying is its impossible to be sure.
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Offline hollingsworth

Re: ++Lefebvre and sedevacantism
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2019, 04:51:50 PM »
 
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But when Assissi happened, that's when +Lefebvre came within a hair's breadth of becoming an open sedevacantist.  Bergoglio makes Wojtyla look like St. Pius X by comparison.

Undoubtedly true!  It might be a bit of hyperbole to say that Bergoglo's heresies dwarf Wojtyla's.  But point taken anyway.  Both of these men are antipopes in my humble opinion.
What kinda bothers me is why +Williamson doesn't refer to this fact more often.  His patience with these unholy and non-Catholic anti-popes might be based in a (hidden?) agenda.  I don't know.  
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: ++Lefebvre and sedevacantism
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2019, 05:13:35 PM »
Quote from: hollingsworth on October 06, 2019, 04:51:50 PM
What kinda bothers me is why +Williamson doesn't refer to this fact more often.

How about because it was not a fact, and wasn’t true?

Perhaps the man who had expelled “the 9” only 3 years prior was a little more stable in his position that you were?
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: ++Lefebvre and sedevacantism
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 06, 2019, 05:13:35 PM
How about because it was not a fact, and wasn’t true?

Perhaps the man who had expelled “the 9” only 3 years prior was a little more stable in his position that you were?
How do you explain the quotes?
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