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Offline 2Vermont

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Sedevacantism not found in prophecy
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2014, 06:54:20 PM »
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  • LMAO
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


    Offline andysloan

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    Sedevacantism not found in prophecy
    « Reply #46 on: March 29, 2014, 07:03:20 PM »
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    Ephesians 5:13



    "But all things that are reproved, are made manifest by the light; for all that is made manifest is light."


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    Sedevacantism not found in prophecy
    « Reply #47 on: March 30, 2014, 07:05:27 PM »
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  • Christ said, in Matthew 24 go to the prophet Daniel.  Chapter 12 of Daniel states and the Church theologians agree that the Eternal Sacrifice will come to an end.  What is understood, the Christ's Blood is Eternal but the Sacrifice of the Mass, the Continual will come to an end.  Now, how is that to come about?  Do we not see that coming?  But is it possible that man would see  to it that it would come to this?  If no Mass, no Sacrifice, would that not include all sacraments which have Our Lord's Precious Blood and it is of Our Lady.  The enemy knows where the Powers are and what will happen without the Powers.

    Is this prophecy enough to tell us How, it will come about?  No, But what will it take for it to take place.  We are left to ponder and for such a tragedy to occur, this is the Worst, to lose salvation for souls.  If we lose our bodies is one thing, but souls are in the hands of our clergy.  

    Why was it so important to have Vatican I to prove Infallibility.  Defining is of the utmost, and that makes it Ex Cathedra.  To prove Infallibility, "True Pope" had to be defined to prove Infallibility.  Thank God for this, for it was So Important for us today, to come to understanding "Is this pope a True Pope?"

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    Sedevacantism not found in prophecy
    « Reply #48 on: November 11, 2015, 02:09:38 PM »
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    To Ladislaus:


    With the greatest respect to you, it is simply absurd to state that the Prophecy of St Francis refers to anything but one particular individual:


    "At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death. Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER."



    And heaven has warned us about Vatican 2:


    Sister Jeanne le Royer (Sister of the Nativity - died 1798)

    "One day I heard that the New Constitution (Vatican 2) will appear to many other than what it really is. They will bless it as a gift from Heaven; whereas it is in fact sent form hell and permitted by God in His just wrath. It will only be by its side effects that people will be led to recognize the Dragon who wanted to destroy all and devour all. One night I saw a number of ecclesiastics. Their haughtiness and air of severity seemed to demand the respect of all. They forced the faithful to follow them. But God commanded me to oppose them saying: They no longer have the right to speak my name Jesus told me. It is against My wish that they carry out a mandate for which they are no longer worthy of."

    "I saw a great power rise up against the Church. it plundered, devastated, and threw into confusion and disorder the vine of the Lord, having it trampled underfoot by the people and holding it up to ridicule by all nations. Having vilified celibacy and oppressed the priesthood, it had the effrontery to confiscate the Church's property and to arrogate to itself the powers of the Holy Father, whose person and laws it held in contempt."

    "I had a vision; Before the Father and the Son- both seated-- a virgin of incomparable beauty, representing the Church, was kneeling. The Holy Ghost spread his shining wings over the virgin and the other two persons. The wound of our Lord seemed alive. Leaning on the Cross with one hand, He offered to His Father with the other hand the chalice which the Master held in the middle. The Father placed one hand on the cup and raised the other to bless the virgin. I noticed that the chalice was only half filled with blood, and I heard these words spoken by our Savior at the moment of presentation; I shall not be fully satisfied until I am unable to fill it right up to the brim. I understood then that the contents of the chalice represented the blood of the early martyrs, and that the vision had reference to the last persecutions of Christians, whose blood would fill the chalice thereby completing the number of martyrs predestined. For at the end of time, there will be as many martyrs as in the early Church and even more, for the persecutions will be far more violent. Then the last Judgment will no longer be delayed."

    "I see in God that a long time before the rise of the Antichrist the world will be afflicted with many bloody wars. Peoples will rise against peoples, and nations will rise against nations, sometimes allied, sometimes enemies, in their fight against the same party. Army’s will come into frightful collisions and will fill the earth with murder and carnage. These internal and foreign wars will cause enormous sacrifices, profanations, scandals, and infinite evils, because of the incursions that will be made into the Church. As well as that I see the earth will be shaken in different places by frightful earthquakes. I see the whole mountains cracking and splitting with a terrible din. Only too happy will one be if one can escape with no more than a fright; but no, I see out of the gaping mountains whirlwinds of smoke, fire, sulphur and tar, which reduce to cinders entire towns. All this and a thousand other disasters must come before the rise of the Man of Sin."

    "I saw in the Light of the Lord that the Faith and our Holy Religion would become weaker in almost every Christian Kingdom. God has permitted that they should be chastised by the wicked in order to awaken them form their apathy. And after the Justice of God has been satisfied, He will pour out an abundance of graces on His Church. And He will spread the Faith and restore discipline of the Church in those countries where it had become tepid and lax. I see in God a great power led by the Holy Ghost which will restore order through a second upheaval. I see in God a large assembly of pastors who will uphold the rights of the Church (not man) and of Her Head. They will restore the former disciplines. I, see in particular two servants of the Lord who will distinguish themselves in this glorious struggle and who, by the grace of God, will fill with ardent zeal the hearts of this illustrious assembly."

    "All false cults will be abolished; all the abuses of the Revolution (Vatican 2) will be destroyed and the altars of the true God restored. The former practices will be put into force again (preVatican 2) and our religion--at least in some respects will flourish more than ever. I see in God that the Church will enjoy a profound peace over a period which seems to be a fairly long duration. This respite will be the longest of all that will occur between the revolutions from now till General Judgment. The closer we draw to General Judgment the shorter will be the revolutions against the Church. The kind of peace that will follow each revolution will also be shorter. This is because we are approaching the End. One day the Lord said to me " A few years before the coming of My enemy, Satan will rise up false prophets who will announce Antichrist as true Messiah, and they try to destroy all our Christian beliefs. The closer we get to Antichrist the more darkness will spread over the earth and the more his satellites will increase their efforts to trap the faithful into their nets. When the Antichrist draws near a false religion (masonry-religion of man) will appear which will deny the unity of God and will oppose the Church. Errors will cause ravages as never before."

    "God has manifested to me the malice of Lucifer and the perverse and diabolical intentions of his henchmen against the Holy Church of Christ. At the command of their master these wicked men have crossed the world like the furies to prepare the way and place for the Antichrist whose reign is approaching. The storm began in France and France shall be the first theatre of its ravages after having been its cradle. The Church in council shall one day strike with anathemas to pull down and to destroy the evil principles of that criminal constitution (Vatican 2). "


    Nothing about a string of anti-popes though.


    God bless!



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    "Having vilified celibacy and oppressed the priesthood, it had the effrontery to confiscate the Church's property and to arrogate to itself the powers of the Holy Father, whose person and laws it held in contempt."


    A false power that hates the Papacy taking to itself the Papacy in an illegitimate Fashion.

    That's an antipope, or a Non-Pope. Pretty clear to me.
    'Take care not to resemble the multitude whose knowledge of God's will only condemns them to more severe punishment.'

    -St. John of Avila