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Offline Michaelknoxville

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Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:47:01 AM »
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  • Out of curiosity, I checked on Google Street View, and it appeared to be apartments.  In these times, we don't always have the luxury of free-standing edifices clearly dedicated to the Faith.  I would sooner assist at the Traditional Latin Mass in a simple apartment, than a dubious modern liturgy in the grandest cathedral.
    Amen! If I can track it down I will. Of course any Latin mass performed in Knoxville will be in defiance of the bishops orders. I would go if it was offered.

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 01:27:48 PM »
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  • So recently I heard beckman go on about “ our creation” Our creation? I don’t know about any of you but I am a good steward of God’s creation and his concerns do not seem to be with the souls entrusted to him but temporal and worldly concerns straight from the green agenda. As the movement dies politically I guess it has been handed over to the Norvos ordos to be rekindled. Our creation! Loose language, dangerous theology. The rhetoric of the green ideologues has crept into the pulpit.
    But Catholics have always known: the earth is the Lord’s. We were given dominion, not ownership. We are stewards, not creators. To call the planet “our creation” is to blur the line between creature and Creator — a hallmark of modernist ideology.

    🕯️ The Vineyard Parable
    Christ told us of the vineyard (Matthew 21:33–41):
    • The vineyard belongs to the Owner.
    • The tenants are entrusted to care for it.
    • When the Owner returns, He demands accountability.
    How can one entrusted with the vineyard of the Church — the liturgy, the Mass, the supernatural faith — fail to preserve it, and then presume to speak of preserving the vineyard of creation? If stewardship of the liturgy collapses, stewardship of the land is hollow.

    🌍 The Green Agenda’s Language
    The “green agenda” often:
    • Deifies nature while denying the supernatural.
    • Speaks of “our creation” as if man is god.
    • Uses ecological rhetoric to mask political control.
    But Catholic stewardship has always been real: monasteries preserved forests, saints lived simply, farmers tilled responsibly. We did not need slogans. We had sacrament.

    The vineyard is not ours. The Mass is not ours. The planet is not ours.
    All belong to God. We are stewards, not creators.
    When the Owner returns, He will ask:
    • Did you preserve My liturgy?
    • Did you guard My creation?
    • Did you honor My Son?
    Loose language betrays loose theology. And loose theology betrays loose stewardship.
    The vineyard is betrayed. The Mass is silenced. The agenda is exposed. . And in light of all of this I just left Boston Massachusetts 6 months ago because I saw Knoxville had a Latin mass and because I now had to start my life over at 40 because I was replaced at my job by “migrants” I’m absolutely broken hearted about this and I don’t know what to do. I have just turned my life around, got off countless drugs, beat Protestantism, Americanism, and modernism after praying and reading and hitting rock bottom just to be kicked in the teeth by this change. 🤦🏼‍♂️ I suppose the answer is to fall in line. I still have not been to confession in 20 years. I’m hoping you guys can give me some encouragement and advice. I can’t move again I was all in on this move! I have to get back to the sacraments. I’m just completely discouraged by all of this.
    Welcome to the Faith!  My husband's family love in TN near Knoxville.  So, we have been in your shoes while visiting them...  The SSPX in Franklin, TN is the closest reliable option.  The only other option which I am aware of is a CMRI chapel near Franklin, TN:

    St. Benedict Traditional Roman Catholic Church
    [color=rgba(46, 45, 45, 0.83)]1139 Hwy 231, Laceys Spring, AL 35754[/color]

    https://www.stbenedictcmri.com/
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

    http://whoshallfindavaliantwoman.blogspot.com/


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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 01:30:58 PM »
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  • Amen! If I can track it down I will. Of course any Latin mass performed in Knoxville will be in defiance of the bishops orders. I would go if it was offered.
    If you aren't able to make the trip to Franklin in general, perhaps you could at least make it for Midnight Mass or Christmas and go to confession to at least be in a better place with God?  And then watching a live Mass when you can't make it to Mass might be a good option. We do that when we visit my husband's family or are sick.  
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 01:36:26 PM »
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  • If you aren't able to make the trip to Franklin in general, perhaps you could at least make it for Midnight Mass or Christmas and go to confession to at least be in a better place with God?  And then watching a live Mass when you can't make it to Mass might be a good option. We do that when we visit my husband's family or are sick. 
    Maybe I’m just picking too much. How can I miss what I’ve never experienced. I suppose a reverent Latin mass is not so bad right? I should just go and stop whining. 🤷‍♂️ I appreciate the encouragement either way. Doing nothing but worry is worse than anything. This was a kick in the teeth because Boston has a beautiful Latin mass and very good priest like the one in Lawrence. I thought I could get that here and beckman kicked me and the others square in the face.

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
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  • Could be, but while trads are thinking they can influence the powers that be, they hold the line and keep marching forward as they have done for the last 60 years, into the pit.

    Did you happen to see the video from this thread? I used to serve Mass for Fr. now Bishop Ward when he was fresh out of seminary and what he says is true. It should give you some idea that they do not care one iota about the faithful.

    Also a great read is The Great Sacrilege, it's about the take over of the new "mass." A must read for trads, especially those who are relatively new trads.
    Ugh I’m scared to hear it stubborn. Haha I will take a look thank you!


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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 04:10:20 PM »
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  • Maybe I’m just picking too much. How can I miss what I’ve never experienced. I suppose a reverent Latin mass is not so bad right? I should just go and stop whining. 🤷‍♂️ I appreciate the encouragement either way. Doing nothing but worry is worse than anything. This was a kick in the teeth because Boston has a beautiful Latin mass and very good priest like the one in Lawrence. I thought I could get that here and beckman kicked me and the others square in the face.
    Have courage and just make the jump to go the Franklin if you can even if just occasionally.   I have a good friend who goes there (her husband directs the schola).  I don't think that you will regret it.  :pray:
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 09:09:07 PM »
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  • Have courage and just make the jump to go the Franklin if you can even if just occasionally.  I have a good friend who goes there (her husband directs the schola).  I don't think that you will regret it.  :pray:
    Sounds like a plan. Honestly I might go to Nashville because I think it may be an easier trip. And I’ll get to see Nashville. I’ll buy a motorcycle little sipper and save some money 😄

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 09:27:27 PM »
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  • So recently I heard beckman go on about “ our creation” Our creation? I don’t know about any of you but I am a good steward of God’s creation and his concerns do not seem to be with the souls entrusted to him but temporal and worldly concerns straight from the green agenda. As the movement dies politically I guess it has been handed over to the Norvos ordos to be rekindled. Our creation! Loose language, dangerous theology. The rhetoric of the green ideologues has crept into the pulpit.
    But Catholics have always known: the earth is the Lord’s. We were given dominion, not ownership. We are stewards, not creators. To call the planet “our creation” is to blur the line between creature and Creator — a hallmark of modernist ideology.

    🕯️ The Vineyard Parable
    Christ told us of the vineyard (Matthew 21:33–41):
    • The vineyard belongs to the Owner.
    • The tenants are entrusted to care for it.
    • When the Owner returns, He demands accountability.
    How can one entrusted with the vineyard of the Church — the liturgy, the Mass, the supernatural faith — fail to preserve it, and then presume to speak of preserving the vineyard of creation? If stewardship of the liturgy collapses, stewardship of the land is hollow.

    🌍 The Green Agenda’s Language
    The “green agenda” often:
    • Deifies nature while denying the supernatural.
    • Speaks of “our creation” as if man is god.
    • Uses ecological rhetoric to mask political control.
    But Catholic stewardship has always been real: monasteries preserved forests, saints lived simply, farmers tilled responsibly. We did not need slogans. We had sacrament.

    The vineyard is not ours. The Mass is not ours. The planet is not ours.
    All belong to God. We are stewards, not creators.
    When the Owner returns, He will ask:
    • Did you preserve My liturgy?
    • Did you guard My creation?
    • Did you honor My Son?
    Loose language betrays loose theology. And loose theology betrays loose stewardship.
    The vineyard is betrayed. The Mass is silenced. The agenda is exposed. . And in light of all of this I just left Boston Massachusetts 6 months ago because I saw Knoxville had a Latin mass and because I now had to start my life over at 40 because I was replaced at my job by “migrants” I’m absolutely broken hearted about this and I don’t know what to do. I have just turned my life around, got off countless drugs, beat Protestantism, Americanism, and modernism after praying and reading and hitting rock bottom just to be kicked in the teeth by this change. 🤦🏼‍♂️ I suppose the answer is to fall in line. I still have not been to confession in 20 years. I’m hoping you guys can give me some encouragement and advice. I can’t move again I was all in on this move! I have to get back to the sacraments. I’m just completely discouraged by all of this.
    I'm confused. 

    What exactly did you move to Knoxville for?

    Mass where? Novus ordo? Indult? SSPX?

    Why Knoxville?


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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:33:33 PM »
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  • It may not be clear to you yet, but the diocese/bishop/diocesan priests is part of the Counterfeit Catholic Church. It is the end times deception, the mystery of iniquity. Whatever you do, do not go anywhere near the Novus Ordo mess.

    You have been given enough grace so far to prefer the TLM and to be devastated by it being taken away from you. Those things show that God is working on you. But it is very complicated, and if you remain in touch with the deceivers, you will probably be deceived. Call one of the traditionally-ordained priests in one of the small chapels mentioned above (Fr. Oswalt maybe). Do not call any diocesan priests. Tell the traditional priest your story.

    And don't worry about tradition being "outlawed" in the Counterfeit Church. That is part of God's plan. The true Roman Catholic Church, the Church that keeps the true Catholic Faith and Morals, can never be outlawed. The real Sacraments from real priests can never be outlawed. Yes, they might be hard to find. But if you want them bad enough, you will find them. It will be like the early days of the Church, the catacombs.

    Receiving the Sacrament of Penance worthily will help you begin to see things more clearly. You should focus on that first. And pray your Rosary daily. All will be well if you keep the true Faith.

    I know Fr. Oswalt. He would be willing to help you. Just call him or email. 

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 09:40:13 PM »
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  • I'm confused.

    What exactly did you move to Knoxville for?

    Mass where? Novus ordo? Indult? SSPX?

    Why Knoxville?
    I had the opportunity to move in with good friends here and it has become mass exodus of disenfranchised people fleeing the so called sanctuary states after being replaced at our long held jobs by the “migrants”. Honestly I know more people in Knoxville from New York Massachusetts and California than I do Tennessee residents. The struggle is real. It’s been going on for a while. I was raised in a Catholic town In upstate ny fort Edward specifically where we were blessed with a pedophile priest from Massachusetts so my formation was slim to say the least. I fled to Boston which was great for 15 years and it just went completely mad. I can’t even tell you half the madness I saw in that city from the zombies on mass and cass to the just massive numbers of foreigners we brought in. Homeless tripled, violence tripled, break ins tripled. I was locked in loaded in my apartment during the summer of love last Trump administration. That was cute. The rats tripled because the new communist mayor from Chicago decided rats have rights. I wish I was making that up. It went mad. They wanted us to register magazines for our firearms, or risk being a felon, I lost my job and I lost it. I trained my replacements. I never thought it would happen but it did and I bolted. So I looked in Knoxville said wonderful Latin mass good communities land! And I got everything but the Latin mass. As soon as I got here they canned it.

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 09:43:36 PM »
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  • I had the opportunity to move in with good friends here and it has become mass exodus of disenfranchised people fleeing the so called sanctuary states after being replaced at our long held jobs by the “migrants”. Honestly I know more people in Knoxville from New York Massachusetts and California than I do Tennessee residents. The struggle is real. It’s been going on for a while. I was raised in a Catholic town In upstate ny fort Edward specifically where we were blessed with a pedophile priest from Massachusetts so my formation was slim to say the least. I fled to Boston which was great for 15 years and it just went completely mad. I can’t even tell you half the madness I saw in that city from the zombies on mass and cass to the just massive numbers of foreigners we brought in. Homeless tripled, violence tripled, break ins tripled. I was locked in loaded in my apartment during the summer of love last Trump administration. That was cute. The rats tripled because the new communist mayor from Chicago decided rats have rights. I wish I was making that up. It went mad. They wanted us to register magazines for our firearms, or risk being a felon, I lost my job and I lost it. I trained my replacements. I never thought it would happen but it did and I bolted. So I looked in Knoxville said wonderful Latin mass good communities land! And I got everything but the Latin mass. As soon as I got here they canned it.

    Thanks for the reply. 
    I'm typing on a phone. Horrible. Will reply tomorrow from proper keyboard. 
    In the meantime, I'll be praying for you. 


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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 09:51:31 PM »
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  • Thanks for the reply.
    I'm typing on a phone. Horrible. Will reply tomorrow from proper keyboard.
    In the meantime, I'll be praying for you.
    Thank you if you can point me to someone who could steer me in the right direction it would be much appreciated!