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Offline Michaelknoxville

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Latin mass canned in Knoxville
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    • So recently I heard beckman go on about “ our creation” Our creation? I don’t know about any of you but I am a good steward of God’s creation and his concerns do not seem to be with the souls entrusted to him but temporal and worldly concerns straight from the green agenda. As the movement dies politically I guess it has been handed over to the Norvos ordos to be rekindled. Our creation! Loose language, dangerous theology. The rhetoric of the green ideologues has crept into the pulpit.
    But Catholics have always known: the earth is the Lord’s. We were given dominion, not ownership. We are stewards, not creators. To call the planet “our creation” is to blur the line between creature and Creator — a hallmark of modernist ideology.

    🕯️ The Vineyard Parable
    Christ told us of the vineyard (Matthew 21:33–41):
    • The vineyard belongs to the Owner.
    • The tenants are entrusted to care for it.
    • When the Owner returns, He demands accountability.
    How can one entrusted with the vineyard of the Church — the liturgy, the Mass, the supernatural faith — fail to preserve it, and then presume to speak of preserving the vineyard of creation? If stewardship of the liturgy collapses, stewardship of the land is hollow.

    🌍 The Green Agenda’s Language
    The “green agenda” often:
    • Deifies nature while denying the supernatural.
    • Speaks of “our creation” as if man is god.
    • Uses ecological rhetoric to mask political control.
    But Catholic stewardship has always been real: monasteries preserved forests, saints lived simply, farmers tilled responsibly. We did not need slogans. We had sacrament.

    The vineyard is not ours. The Mass is not ours. The planet is not ours.
    All belong to God. We are stewards, not creators.
    When the Owner returns, He will ask:
    • Did you preserve My liturgy?
    • Did you guard My creation?
    • Did you honor My Son?
    Loose language betrays loose theology. And loose theology betrays loose stewardship.
    The vineyard is betrayed. The Mass is silenced. The agenda is exposed. . And in light of all of this I just left Boston Massachusetts 6 months ago because I saw Knoxville had a Latin mass and because I now had to start my life over at 40 because I was replaced at my job by “migrants” I’m absolutely broken hearted about this and I don’t know what to do. I have just turned my life around, got off countless drugs, beat Protestantism, Americanism, and modernism after praying and reading and hitting rock bottom just to be kicked in the teeth by this change. 🤦🏼‍♂️ I suppose the answer is to fall in line. I still have not been to confession in 20 years. I’m hoping you guys can give me some encouragement and advice. I can’t move again I was all in on this move! I have to get back to the sacraments. I’m just completely discouraged by all of this. 
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 06:37:33 PM »
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    • It would be a bit of a drive but this is one option in Franklin, TN:

    https://corpuschristichapel.com/

    Or you can contact Our Lady of Lourdes Mission in Soddy-Daisy, TN

    Not sure if there are other options in your area, any Eastern Catholic churches?
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 06:56:46 PM »
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    • Christ suffered for love of you. Thank Him that you have more to suffer for the love of Him. Accept this burden patiently and willingly that as much good has come from Christ's suffering, so may some good (peace, converts, your own salvation, ect) may come from this suffering.



    The SSPX also has an equally far away church in Roswell GA.
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    Offline Michaelknoxville

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 07:43:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 06:37:33 PM
    It would be a bit of a drive but this is one option in Franklin, TN:

    https://corpuschristichapel.com/

    Or you can contact Our Lady of Lourdes Mission in Soddy-Daisy, TN

    Not sure if there are other options in your area, any Eastern Catholic churches?
    Saint Thomas eastern Byzantine Catholic mission 6 minutes from my house. Holy Ghost where they are ending the Latin mass is 10 minutes. I will look into that. It’s so sad. Holy Ghost was known as a very reverent church with a huge following. 
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    Offline Michaelknoxville

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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 07:45:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on Yesterday at 06:56:46 PM
    Christ suffered for love of you. Thank Him that you have more to suffer for the love of Him. Accept this burden patiently and willingly that as much good has come from Christ's suffering, so may some good (peace, converts, your own salvation, ect) may come from this suffering.



    The SSPX also has an equally far away church in Roswell GA.
    I know it. I’m dooming as the kids call it. It’s awful. I’m a come back and it took a lot. The prodigal son welcomed back with a James Martin party. 😆☦️🤦🏼‍♂️
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 08:03:12 PM »
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    • Michael, the highest priority is to receive the Sacrament of Penance as soon as you can. 

    Do your best to find a good traditionally-ordained priest in one of the chapels mentioned by the others. Even if you cannot drive that far to Mass every Sunday, you should call the priest and set up a time to do a general confession. Maybe he would be willing to to drive to you. But don't put that off. And make sure that you prepare well. Good luck and may God bless you.

    http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/Examination_of_Conscience.html
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 08:56:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Angelus on Yesterday at 08:03:12 PM
    Michael, the highest priority is to receive the Sacrament of Penance as soon as you can.

    Do your best to find a good traditionally-ordained priest in one of the chapels mentioned by the others. Even if you cannot drive that far to Mass every Sunday, you should call the priest and set up a time to do a general confession. Maybe he would be willing to to drive to you. But don't put that off. And make sure that you prepare well. Good luck and may God bless you.

    http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/Examination_of_Conscience.html
    So this I’ll have to say the priest that gives the Latin service here at the Holy Ghost 10 minutes from my house put out the letter recently basically just falling in line with the bishop. They have a meeting scheduled to talk about the changes and I’m new here I don’t want to just butt in as I’m new to the parish. Maybe I should I don’t know. I guess to speak to someone and not just read about someone else’s opinions about them. I’m in no position to have an opinion. It’s not my parish. My last priest in fort Edward ny was a child molester sent to us from Massachusetts. I stuck up for him not knowing and he ended up moving in across the street after retirement with a boy it turns out he was molesting and I looked like a fool. That was 20 years ago a little more. I wish I was making this up. But I just come to my senses and bam tradition is outlawed. What a mess.
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 09:14:06 PM »
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    • I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. God be with you as you navigate this crisis. :pray:
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 09:32:12 PM »
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    • In the meantime, do watch Mass livestream or otherwise online. It doesn’t count as having fulfilled your Sunday obligation, but you can gain graces from it. It is better than reading your missal by yourself. If there are other traditional Catholics you can join for Rosary, etc. that will help. 
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
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    • Quote from: Michaelknoxville on Yesterday at 08:56:44 PM
    So this I’ll have to say the priest that gives the Latin service here at the Holy Ghost 10 minutes from my house put out the letter recently basically just falling in line with the bishop. They have a meeting scheduled to talk about the changes and I’m new here I don’t want to just butt in as I’m new to the parish. Maybe I should I don’t know. I guess to speak to someone and not just read about someone else’s opinions about them. I’m in no position to have an opinion. It’s not my parish. My last priest in fort Edward ny was a child molester sent to us from Massachusetts. I stuck up for him not knowing and he ended up moving in across the street after retirement with a boy it turns out he was molesting and I looked like a fool. That was 20 years ago a little more. I wish I was making this up. But I just come to my senses and bam tradition is outlawed. What a mess.

    It may not be clear to you yet, but the diocese/bishop/diocesan priests is part of the Counterfeit Catholic Church. It is the end times deception, the mystery of iniquity. Whatever you do, do not go anywhere near the Novus Ordo mess.

    You have been given enough grace so far to prefer the TLM and to be devastated by it being taken away from you. Those things show that God is working on you. But it is very complicated, and if you remain in touch with the deceivers, you will probably be deceived. Call one of the traditionally-ordained priests in one of the small chapels mentioned above (Fr. Oswalt maybe). Do not call any diocesan priests. Tell the traditional priest your story.

    And don't worry about tradition being "outlawed" in the Counterfeit Church. That is part of God's plan. The true Roman Catholic Church, the Church that keeps the true Catholic Faith and Morals, can never be outlawed. The real Sacraments from real priests can never be outlawed. Yes, they might be hard to find. But if you want them bad enough, you will find them. It will be like the early days of the Church, the catacombs.

    Receiving the Sacrament of Penance worthily will help you begin to see things more clearly. You should focus on that first. And pray your Rosary daily. All will be well if you keep the true Faith.
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    Re: Latin mass canned in Knoxville
    « Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 09:48:47 PM »
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    • They can not deceive a man who came back to the faith through father G Hesse! ☦️ 😎🍷🩸 I hear you loud and clear angelous! I appreciate you! God bless you. Somthing in me wants to go in there like a wrecking ball. Humble of course but proud of our God and His family. I want them to deal with me in light of what I’ve been through with the Norvos ordos. They did not form us. They let the schools. The Godless schools where all of my teachers attended mass on Sunday and did not believe it! I’ve tasted the fruit of their failures. I hold myself accountable as well but I’ve had time to reflect and I understand they have betrayed the faith. They do not believe in the church anymore. They are modernist Americans they are not Roman Catholics. 
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