The Ukraine is billions in debt to Gazprom.....

How is that the fault of Russia? And your bringing up IMF doesn't help your argument. IMF is the enemy of Russia. IMF, who greatly contributed to the debt slavery of Ukraine, is also trying to undermine Russia. IMF is part of the same cabal who waged a coup against a legitimate Ukrainian presidency with loyalty to Russia. And what part of, "Russia has every right to raise prices on gas against a Ukrainian govt/nation acting as a proxy for war against Russia", do you not understand? Your "logic" is that of blaming an innocent man for putting the children of a drunken man in near destitution, when the drunkard started a fight with the innocent man, but the drunkard ended up getting severely whooped and in the hospital, thus having to miss work for 3 weeks, hence no income. None of that would have happened if it were not for the belligerence and aggression of the drunkard. The blame for the children having to suffer lies with the drunken father, not the man who justifiably defends himself.

Russia is not an antithesis of Marxism or Soviet Communism or Socialism. If you can establish it as an antithesis of anything, please do

Ok. Simple. I'll reiterate, AGAIN, the most clear cut antithesis of current Russia to the Godlessness and cultural Marxism of the former Soviet Union. The Soviet state officially denied Our Lord. They state mandated atheism everywhere and persecuted the Church. Russia now criminalizes any public mockery of the Church and blasphemy of Christ. Putin promotes the Church in Russia. Soviet Marxist thesis: "No God"... worship the state... attack all that is Christian. Putin's Russia antithesis: God exists... participate in worship to Him... reprimand anyone who offends the Lord and the Church. The Synthesis: More God-loving and God-fearing people... a people who begin to adhere to what is Holy again, even if the longing for Him is just in its genesis... a more virtuous people who come to realize why they're created - to know, love, serve and worship the Lord with all of their strength. To fulfill Our Lord's true plans for their lives. No better synthesis than that...

You lose, again.

Do you honestly expect us to believe that Russia has overcome her own lies without a consecration?

This is a strawman argument because I never said Russia has undergone a full conversion to the Catholic Faith. The Blessed Virgin Mary said Russia's consecration to her Immaculate Heart is necessary for their conversion. However, even when no such consecration has taken place, that doesn't mean other prayers for Russia have no efficacy, for Christ hears all sincere prayers, thus we cannot rule out the prayers of some of the faithful, where Our Lord might respond and shed His graces upon Russia, so she begins to become a nation that acknowledges Him, and resists some of the evils that once plagued it. Christ even said we can move mountains if we had the Faith of a mustard seed.

So now onto Obama...

How many times do I have to clearly explain that Obama is an evil Sock Puppet? You're preaching to the choir about him. He pushes for systemic cultural Marxism; and politically and economically, he pushes for Marxist socialism at the grassroots level; however, the elite level enjoys the benefits and powers of a corporate technocratic plutocracy controlling the whole anti-Christ and anti-human system.

Now Jєωs are certainly involved, but you have to take down the real power that shields them and every other abomination that's rearing it's ugly head. If all we had to worry about was the Israeli army, the most cowardly military power on the face of the earth, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

If one event can explain who, indeed, are the most cunning deceivers threatening world peace and the sovereignty of the USA, it is the 9/11 attacks. Who was behind 9/11? Not "Soviet Russia"... not Putin... not the KGB disguising themselves as stand-up guys. No, rather it was the perfidious Jєωs (dual Israeli-American citizens) and Israel who were primarily involved in the attacks and coverup of 9/11. Saudi Arabia was also involved but to a lesser extent. These neocon Jєωs are the same demons who manipulate geopolitical events of strategic importance around the world, including Ukraine as I've already proven.

Allow me to quote the St John Vianney for a moment when I say "Poor man!"

God never used or will use Hegelian dialect for anything. What He does, He does unequivocally, boldly and powerfully. Thesis/Antithesis/Synthesis are tools of deception and seduction (of which you are an unfortunate victim). .

Another strawman argument from you. First, Hegelian dialectic is a manufactured Problem - Reaction - "Solution" (that's a fake solution and meant to create more problems, thus evoking more reactions and "solutions") which is a means of deceiving and manipulating the herd into supporting actions based on a pretext, in order to effect a hidden agenda that benefits only those who orchestrated the Hegelian dialectic in the first place. 9/11 is a quintessential Hegelian dialectic.

You're the one (fallaciously) conflating thesis, antithesis, synthesis with Hegelian dialectic as explained above, as to control the narrative and thereby "win" an argument over a position that I'm not making. I never said Our Lord came up with the Hegelian dialectic to make Russia into a nation that accepts Him again. I merely pointed out Russia (promoting God) is the antithesis of former Soviet Union (denying God & persecuting Church). Then you try to conflate this with a Hegelian dialectic... as if this is my position. FAIL !! and very underhanded of you.

Of course, you ignore the imperative point being made regarding 9/11 and who was really behind it in my last post, for this is the Litmus Test. You know that if you're confronted with such test, you would be forced to realize the truth of the matter. So your cognitive dissonance makes you run away yelling "blah blah blah blah" with your phalanges stuck in your ears.

As for the rest of your drivel, which I did not bother to read, my only appropriate response is,  :read-paper: , for I'm now done with you. The rest of your red herring and other logical fallacy-laden posts will be met with  
 

No strawmen here, but....

Somebody pointed out to me the idiocy of your last post, and I really debated to myself whether I should respond, and I will respond with more truth.

Strawman "Croix"alist says

...no heart for supporting an openly anti-Catholic regime...

Modern Russia is not opposed to Catholicism, rather they're opposed to the NWO Conciliar church that is a wolf in sheep's clothing, aligning her harlot self, behind closed doors, with war-mongering, zionist, usurious, culturally marxist, anti-Christ nations in the EU, and the US and Israel, while she spews typical abstract rhetoric with positive connotations, such as, "we must return to peace", designed to make herself look "righteous" to the many novus ordo catholics, and others in the West, who are lost in their diabolical disorientation.

As for the rest of what you wrote in that paragraph, it needs no response because it's non substantive, illogical drivel packaged to make you sound "right". Another utter FAIL.  

Strawman "Croix"alist says

Hegelian dialectic is the term commonly referred to describe the use of thesis/antithesis/synthesis. It's not associated with anything else.  Did you think you invented it yourself and can apply it willy-nilly? You then tried to pull back and use "antithesis" as simply an opposite of pre-1991 Soviet Russia (never mind the fact you actually went through the trouble to outline your Hegelian framework for it) and still fall flat on your face.

You were the one who tried conflating Hegelian dialectic with my use of  "antithesis" (which is Russia) to the former Soviet Union. I used that term independently from Hegelian dialectic, but you, in your deceptive strawman argumentation, tried to bait me by declaring who was the thesis, and thus, what could be the synthesis? Naturally, anyone with some degree of cognition could see the answers to that (baited) question, but I answered the obvious anyway, and my answer was not in regard to a Hegelian dialectic. It was merely saying Russia is the antithesis of Soviet Union because the former promotes Our Lord, while the latter denied Him openly (thesis), and thus the synthesis can be the genesis of more God-loving and God-fearing people again in Russia. Moreover, these words and concepts - thesis, antithesis, synthesis - are NOT exclusive to Hegelian dialectic.

You lose, again.  

Strawman "Croix"alist says

Fatima ought to be your litmus test.

I believe in Fatima. However, Catholics are not obligated to believe any apparition, rather these few apparitions are deemed by the Church to be believable, and contain no errors that contradict, nor could be harmful to, the Faith. Moreover, and again, Our Lady never specified how long "Russia will spread her errors". Your problem is you have a preconceived notion about what Our Lady was warning the world. And perhaps when this warning, apropos to Russia, comes to fruition, but doesn't match your little mind's preconceived notion, then you won't believe it. That is lack of Faith on your part! Objectively, we can see Russia has already spread those errors (see by previous comment), which includes infiltration of the U.S. and using the whore America as a proxy.  

Strawman "Croix"alist says

You think Russia and Israel are sworn enemies?

They sure aren't allies. Even back in the 60s of the Soviet Union, decades after Stalin was the biggest proponent of "Israel's" creation, they began to be at odds with each other, as reflected by a Soviet ship witnessing Israel attacking the USS Liberty, and when Israel realized they were spotted by the Soviets, they halted finishing the attack. Alas, almost 40 American sailors were still murdered by the perfidious Jєωs, whose impetus for the attacks was to blame Egypt or Jordan, thus draw the U.S. into the war.

And it's Putin's Russia who saved Syria from being overrun by Israeli (and U.S./Saudi) backed Muhammadan extremists, thus the Christian minority in Syria, who have always had protection by the Assads, were saved from being pillaged and raped.

Look, buddy, why don't you go to "Catholic"Answers and seek out some fellow neocon anti-Russia bigoted slobs, and maybe you all can have a slumber party while you watch Red Dawn and stroke each others' confirmation bias.  

By the way, are you some sort of perverted masochist? You seem to enjoy being destroyed every time in this polemic.  :surprised: Nevermind, don't answer... Anyway, to conclude this most truthful rebuttal which essentially annihilates your logical fallacies and lies, take heed to what Bishop Williamson says about modern day Russia and the possibility of Moscow becoming the 3rd Rome !

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If Russia today is anti-Catholic does this necessarily mean that it is still basically a Soviet state?  Could it not be the case that the rediscovery of Orthodoxy is the cause of Russia's present anti-Catholicism?

Okay, this is only an anecdote, but I have a Russian Orthodox friend whose father was only 7 years old when forced to emigrate with his family following the Bolshevik Revolution.  This lady and her family a very anti-Catholic, as much as any Protestant.  They refer to the Pope as the 'Bishop of Rome' and my friend regularly makes jibes at the Church.

My point is that Russia does not have to still be Communist to be anti-Catholic.  Being Orthodox is enough. Also, Russia was always fairly authoritarian, even before the Bolsheviks took over.  Perhaps they are just reverting to type, and see Putin as some kind of Czar figure, rather than as a reincarnation of Stalin.  

Interestingly, Stalin also played on the image of of the all-powerful, Czar-like ruler of Russia in his propaganda. Perhaps what we are witnessing today, is Russia simply being Russia, Orthodox Russia though, not necessarily Soviet Russia.

To sum up, no Russia doesn't have to be Communist to be anti-Catholic. They're Communist because that's the power structure the forerunner of the antichrist has chosen (and God has permitted) to persecute the Church in our present age.