Author Topic: Latest research on the Great Monarch. (Read 21463 times)

Nishant · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:30:58 AM »

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When this idea hit me, it instantly intrigued me. There are verifiable prophecies about a Restoration of the Church, but not so much about the Great Monarch

I agree with this part. Here is Fr.Armidjon, writing in the late 1800's, even before Our Lady of Fatima promised an age of peace, who conducted a detailed study of Sacred Scripture and patristic Tradition and after pointing out the texts that say all nations shall enter the house of the Lord, worship on His holy mountain, that the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord etc, says this:

Quote from: Fr. Armidjon, The End of the Present World

These texts are explicit and precise. It is clear from their testimony that there will come a time when all heresies and schisms will be overcome, and when the true religion will be known and practiced in all places illuminated by the sun.

Remember when a doctrine is proved from the deposit of revelation strictly so called, it can command our assent in a way that private revelation and prophecies of Saints do not. It most certainly seems to be the wonderful truth that in the age of Mary the empire of Jesus Christ will span the seven seas and extend over all the earth.

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... What if our entire vision of the future is, therefore, totally wrong?

While I don't stake much in the specifics of the Great Monarch prophecies myself, I certainly see no discordance in them.

What, do you expect that secular republics will continue? Obviously, there will be Christians kingdoms and Catholic monarchs on earth in that day, obviously they will be the right arm of Holy Church and her Sovereign Pontiffs. What, then, exactly, is the cause for a stumbling block if there seem to be specific speculations about this or that king and this or that Pope?

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The fact that the Great Monarch is an exact mirror of Antichrist, like a "good" Antichrist, also makes you wonder.

It shouldn't make you wonder. This is like Protestants who reasoned, since the Pope claims to be Vicar of Christ, he is AntiChrist, who wants to be like Christ and in his place.

Christian kings aim to be like Christ our Lord and spread His reign of peace and love over the earth. AntiChrist will be a worldly king who will spread the reign of death and terror over it. So the similarities are purely accidental, the essential differences quite profound.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:16:10 PM »

WARNING: I did not think it was wrong at the time, but I'm pretty sure some of the information presented in my original post was from non-Catholic scholars. I do not recall the books being openly hostile to the Catholic faith, nor polemical in favor of a false religion, but probably were written in a style that appeared objective. Namely the idea of the Sibyl's prophecy being repeated almost word-for-word in the works of others, was, though my memory is vague, probably not from a Catholic source.

I am involved in other things and don't want to do heavy research on this right now -- not to mention I just have almost no belief in the Great Monarch anymore and in fact believe this may be part of the myth used by Antichrist on his way to power, since the parallels to his life are obvious -- but I am just warning anyone who stumbles across it, that some of the above research used sources I would not use today, unless my priest told me I could.

So until I ask him and report back, please ignore the original post. I know Catholic scholars take advantage of the research of non-Catholics, but I am not authorized to do so at the moment, I don't think -- therefore my hands are tied and I can't really say much else.

However, one thing that at this point seems CERTAIN, is that the Great Monarch prophecies began with a Sibyl, which already for me is a bad sign. To go further in depth about this Sibyl, however, is impossible for me at the moment, as I'm just not sure what sources to rely upon.

The rest of what I have read about the Monarch does not have the ring of inspired Catholic prophecy to me; more like a combo of folk legend and wishful thinking. The exception would be the St. Francis of Paola letters; IF they can be proven to be authentic.

PereJoseph · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:11:57 PM »

What about the prophecies of Anna Maria Taigi ?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:26:27 PM »

Yes, PereJoseph. That's exactly what I was going to ask.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2013, 01:25:00 AM »

I just came back on to say, I am not even sure that these prophecies or "prophecies" began with a Sibyl. I don't have a sure Catholic source for that.
So just ignore everything I've said except to be very wary and research each supposed prophecy.

I am getting much more advanced in Latin now and could translate Holzhauser, that may help me, in case he cites sources for his belief in the Great Monarch. But I read slowly and painfully, having to look up many words, and that is not where I want to spend my energy. I am not preoccupied with this topic anymore.

PereJoseph, from what I recall, Anna-Maria Taigi prophesizes a future Pope and the Three Days of Darkness or something like it, but not a Great Monarch, and it is by free-association that people tack the Monarch onto that. ( There is lots of free-association going on with this topic ). Elisabetta Canori-Mora, I believe, also prophesizes a Pope but no Great Monarch. And if a prophecy mentions a king that doesn't mean it is the GREAT Monarch, but again, people read him into everything whenever a future great king is mentioned.

Do not take my word for all this, I am fuzzy on the details. Do your own research. But the Taigi and Canori-Mora prophecies stuck me as quite authentic when I was on this track, and I am almost positive they did not mention a Great Monarch, though one or both mentions a future Pope. That is what I now believe, there will be a future Pope who may be the restrainer, and there may be kings in Europe again, but not a Great Monarch.

The Great Monarch idea fits all too neatly into sinister currents I see happening in France, and I am definitely on my guard here.