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Offline Telesphorus

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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 12:25:16 PM »
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  • Maurice Pinay makes a good point, we haven't seen any confirmation that "Maximilian Krah" is Jewish.  However, it is very disquieting that someone who participates in fundraising for Tel Aviv university and for Jews making Aliya would be in charge of SSPX finances and choosing legal counsel for a society bishop.  Simply unbelievable.

    The Krah at the Jewish fundraiser is the same one as the Krah in the CDU periodical.  Now do we have absolutely proof that this same Maximilian Krah is the one who is managing the good faith contributions of SSPX faithful?

    To put the monies of SSPX faithful into such hands, knowingly, would deserve a long prison term, if there were justice in this world.

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    « Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 12:46:11 PM »
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  • i find it quite amusing that there are those who express surprise at the disclosure  Judaix are running SSPX.  :scratchchin:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 12:49:26 PM »
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    Now that the questions are out there, I think BF or an official Society response should at least address it.


    He'd better address it, or he and the Society are going to see our tithes dropping off dramatically.  If +F is going to play this matter close to the vest, as is his wont, then maybe our money, or the great reduction of it into Society and chapel coffers, may force his hand.  Let the money speak.

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    « Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 12:51:31 PM »
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    i find it quite amusing that there are those who express surprise at the disclosure Judaix are running SSPX


    Well, I think a simple perusal of some of the latest copies of The Angelus would seem  to point in that direction.

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    « Reply #19 on: November 30, 2010, 02:03:29 AM »
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    The attendees of this fundraising party are alumni of Tel Aviv University. They are raising scholarship funds to assist diasporan Jews to travel to the Zionist State of Israel to receive a formation at Tel Aviv University. Look at the photographs. Every single person is identified and every single one is clearly Jewish. There is no problem whatever with this, Krah included.


    (is William of Norwitch being facetious?)

    http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/11/maximilian-krah-and-menzingen-cause-for.html

    If this story is true and this is the same Krah then Bishop Fellay could very well be under sinister influence.


    Yeah, I would say that the SSPX is  being infiltrated by the Zionists, and they are going for the kill!
    They will get Bishop Williamson expelled, because he just doesnt fit into their agenda, being "antisemitic in his views.
    At the same time they will pilfer the society of its funds!
    Wow how diabolical can it be!
    At the end of all of this there will be a spilt in the Society.
    One group will go with the Vatican !! church and the other group will become sedevacantists.
    No Catholic will be spared in this final assault by Satan to destroy whats left of the Church!   Remember we are engaged in a BATTLE!  

    Two questions to ask:
    Is Bishop Fellay so stupid he doesnt know about the Zionist plot to take over the world?
    OR
    Is he part of it......or did he sell out somewhere along the way!


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    « Reply #20 on: November 30, 2010, 06:27:53 AM »
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  • Emerentiana I agree with you. I have always thought there would be a split. Anymore I do not know. They will all make excuses for Fellay you wait and see. I really am rather worn out with the double-minedness of those who defend all things of The NewChurch all the time. From condoms  to jews to masons. I think I am going to make a mini-retreat in my own home for Advent. Read St. Thomas of Aquinas and be at peace.

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    « Reply #21 on: November 30, 2010, 07:15:38 AM »
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  • I don't think there is any reason to panic. BF doesn't want Tradition linked to revisionism, Nazi groups, etc. It would mean the enemy wins. He's simply being prudent and cautious. BW is complying.

    I think everyone is blowing this out of proportion. There is no reason for BF to sell out his life's work for nothing. Have some Faith. The enemy wants us to turn on each other. Divide and conquer.

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    « Reply #22 on: November 30, 2010, 08:09:26 AM »
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    The attendees of this fundraising party are alumni of Tel Aviv University. They are raising scholarship funds to assist diasporan Jews to travel to the Zionist State of Israel to receive a formation at Tel Aviv University. Look at the photographs. Every single person is identified and every single one is clearly Jewish. There is no problem whatever with this, Krah included.


    (is William of Norwitch being facetious?)

    http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/11/maximilian-krah-and-menzingen-cause-for.html

    If this story is true and this is the same Krah then Bishop Fellay could very well be under sinister influence.


    Yeah, I would say that the SSPX is  being infiltrated by the Zionists, and they are going for the kill!
    They will get Bishop Williamson expelled, because he just doesnt fit into their agenda, being "antisemitic in his views.
    At the same time they will pilfer the society of its funds!
    Wow how diabolical can it be!
    At the end of all of this there will be a spilt in the Society.
    One group will go with the Vatican !! church and the other group will become sedevacantists.
    No Catholic will be spared in this final assault by Satan to destroy whats left of the Church!   Remember we are engaged in a BATTLE!  

    Two questions to ask:
    Is Bishop Fellay so stupid he doesnt know about the Zionist plot to take over the world?
    OR
    Is he part of it......or did he sell out somewhere along the way!


    Why is it that "Post-SSPX, there must be Sedevacantism"

    How does it follow that a hypothetical sellout by +Fellay would lead to a conclusion that the Pope isn't pope?

    The same goes for Telesphorus -- he's very disillusioned with the SSPX, and so he feels like Sedevacantism is staring him down, beckoning him over, while doesn't know that he wants to be there.

    WHY??

    Why couldn't the SSPX split where half merges with the Conciliar Church and the other half does what it's been doing the past 40 years?

    It is because Sedevacantism is the only other traditional movement? Is it because acknowledging the pope would get that much more difficult -- humanly speaking -- after the Pope just made a (we're talking hypotheticals here) premature, false deal with the SSPX?

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    « Reply #23 on: November 30, 2010, 08:14:04 AM »
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  • No, there has been a change in the Society. Maybe not just over a couple of events but in a general direction. I would say the few shows of conservatism in Rome and those stillborn doctrinal talks have turned the heads of the leadership as it has for some other groups. At the same time a spring cleaning operation has been going on to make the Society more acceptable to a less hardline conservative audience, to make it easier for some accommodation to be made with Rome and to avoid potention friction with secular authorities. In this respect it is logicial for the leadership to want to see the back of those it welcomed in the old days, including Bp. Williamson. ABL has long gone and Menzingen wants a new corporate image and will employ modern methods to achieve its new goal. The Society is not a democracy and one man can decide its fate without too much difficulty.

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    « Reply #24 on: November 30, 2010, 08:15:46 AM »
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  • By the way, I probably know more about the SSPX than Telesphorus -- good and bad. I was in their seminary for 3 1/3 years.

    And let's just say he's not the only one whose personal life was touched by the SSPX.

    But I continue to attend their chapels because I know that each priest is a different man, which means that some can be holy while others have serious issues. AND getting the Sacraments in an atmosphere where the entire Catholic Faith is preserved is very important. Likewise, now that I have a family, it's important that the sermons be sound and the Catholic Faith be taught inviolate.

    About the only flaw at my current chapel is that a bunch of the parishioners like things the way they are, and they don't want to expand to a larger facility, even though visitors have to watch Mass on a TV set in the parish hall because there's no room for them in the chapel. Such visitors seldom come back a 2nd time. We're also in flagrant violation of fire codes seven ways from Sunday.

    Apparently, for some old people, it's more important to have "stability" and comfortable routine than it is to save souls.

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    « Reply #25 on: November 30, 2010, 08:26:52 AM »
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  • A lot of Sedes have been constantly squawking about a "sell-out" and using the Williamson affair as a chance to divide the Society, instill hopelessness in Society members and get them to become schismatics along with them. It seems they take every chance they get through whatever means necessary to ruin any possible doctrinal discussions with Rome. In my opinion Sedevacantism is poison and a false solution to the Crisis. Sedevacantism is the mirror image of Neo-Catholicism in that both mindsets delusionally ignore the crisis. The Neo-Caths say, what crisis? The Church is fine. The Sedes say, what crisis? There is no Pope. Only crisis is in a false church anyway. Neither mindset either recognizes the true nature of the crisis or encourages jack squat to actually be done about it. Neo-Caths passively await orders and what insanity they will defend next. Sedes passively sit there in their caves waiting for God to re-establish His Church miraculously while they take pot shots at the Society and other Trads who are actually trying to do something to resolve the crisis.

    As I've said before, what possible basis do Society Catholics and Sedes have to discuss any crisis in the Church? The Sede response will be one or two lines saying "see I told you he's not Pope" or "there goes the anti-Church again", etc. There is nothing to discuss if you are a Sede except how miserable this anti-pope and false church is. If you are a Society Catholic there are very many substantive issues and distinctions to be discussed in what is happening in the true Church that REALLY is visible and does exist during this crisis.

    I see a lot less activity on the forum lately and I'm afraid it is due to the large influx of Sedes who either kill or derail any intelligent non-Sede discussion of the crisis. This is why I  requested any Sede discussion limited to its own forum. Sedevacantist premises completely eviscerate the dialogue between non-Sedes. How can I have an intelligent discussion on anything the Pope did with someone who is working off the premise he is an evil usurper layman? We're not even on the same planet.


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    « Reply #26 on: November 30, 2010, 08:40:22 AM »
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  • I agree with much of your post, Stevus --

    But I'm not going to make any changes to the Crisis subforum. Your summary makes sense in the abstract, but practically speaking they do have something to contribute.

    And I disagree with the bit about "less traffic lately". Traffic comes and goes -- it completely depends on the presence/absence of a "hot thread". People participate in fits and starts. Traffic comes in bursts -- feast or famine. There's always an ebb and flow.

    I wish I had a dime for every time someone predicted CathInfo's demise. I'd have a lot more time for CathInfo -- because I wouldn't have to work for a living anymore!  :laugh1:
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    « Reply #27 on: November 30, 2010, 08:44:14 AM »
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  • To be honest, I am not at all concerned with what goes on in apostate Rome and the Society is becoming a lost cause. Internal conflict seems to be the order of the day all round and the clutching of straws on many a blog is getting very depressing. I think I am going to see more spirituality in fly-fishing or rose-growing. I will pass on golf.

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    « Reply #28 on: November 30, 2010, 08:50:00 AM »
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  • Fair enough, Matthew.

    I didnt mean to say Cath Info is doomed or dying. I'm just saying a trend I noticed lately. I still like the forum.

    As an aside, how was your time in the seminary? Why did you decide to leave? I've always been interested in Society seminary life. Any interesting classes that stood out?

    Thanks!

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    « Reply #29 on: November 30, 2010, 09:27:55 AM »
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  • I saw that article. No surprise that AQ deleted it either. They love locking and deleting threads over there.

     

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