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Video: 53 min.

Stephen Kohx

Fake Sister Lucy.
Many details are presented by Dr. Peter Chojnowski Ph.D. re;  Lucy I and Lucy II.   Interesting to say the least.

I didn't know that the Coimbra University concluded that Sr. Lucy II's Portuguese accent (speech) was from Northern Portugal, very far from Fatima...

Third Secret is discussed at TIMESTAMP  28:13

Our Lady of Fatima , pray for us.

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More docuмents and thoughts about the Fatima subject can be found on the OPUS DEI thread, started by user Persto ; around page 58 etc.



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Sorry I forgot to show a link for Opus Dei Thread and relevant information of all things Fatima: hope this works...

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/opus-dei-72878/msg1013791/#msg1013791


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https://confraternidadedorosario.blogspot.com/2017/10/lucia-impostora-de-coimbra-provas.html

outubro 27, 2017
Irmã Lúcia impostora de Coimbra


Poor AI translation, sorry , there are errors, but the understanding is quite real.

un-official: Spanish web site...Clic  "Translate page ?" in browser.

Excerpts:
 
 At the beginning of this millennium the media and the world still celebrated the fall of communism in Russia
and eastern Europe. Now, after 57 years since the Third Undisclosed Secret, what we can call invisible
 kommunism advances almost without resistance, and carries out the destruction of families by abortion,
divorce and same-s*x marriage, as well as the destruction of private property and of every legal order
in the countries of socialist governments throughout Latin America. The Russian invasion of Ukraine continues,
and neighboring nations fear Vladimir Putin’s expansionist ambitions. There is also the persecution of Christians by
Islαm and the Mυslim invasion of Europe. This is a very brief view of the current state of the world.

There are three aspects that we want to highlight in the apparitions and the Message of Fatima.

1- The first point, to which we call the attention of readers, is that the theme Fatima is often treated in isolation
 without the historical connection with the marial apparitions in France, in La Salette (1846),
in Lourdes (1858) and in Rue de Bac (1830). It is also harmful to the Catholic public that the close link
 between Fatima and the expansion of Russia’s errors in the world through kommunism is not highlighted.
In fact, the year 1917 is important in the history of humanity, because on May 13 Our Lady appeared in Fatima.
It was also the year of the communist revolution, which exploded in October in Russia. And in Rome
St. Maximilian Maria Kolbe saw the Freemasons parade carrying a banner on which Lucifer crushed
 St. Michael the Archangel.


2- The second point that deserves attention, is that in recent years the very identity of Sister Lucia has been questioned.
Analysis has emerged that maintains that Sister Lucia who appears in the photographs until 1960, is not the
same person who appears after that date. This mysterious replacement is analyzed in the photographs and comments
 stamped on the US website Tradition in Action, which posted several articles in this regard, and we refer to
 its readers (1). It is not up here to speculate what happened to the real: whether she died of natural causes,
 or was incarcerated, or even m*rdered (2).

3- The third point concerns the authenticity of the third part of the Message of Fatima – the so-called Third
 Secret of Fatima – which has been questioned. What was presented by the Vatican in the year 2000 does not
correspond to the letter that Sister Lucy forwarded to the Pope, to be opened and revealed to the world
from 1960. What then would be the true secret and what is the purpose of those who disclosed a counterfeit?

   As is known, the Message (or Secret) of Fatima was transmitted by Our Lady to the three little
 shepherds in Fatima in the third apparition, on July 13, 1917, and comprises three parts.
   The first is the vision of hell, which left the three children terrified.

    In the second part, in short, Our Lady says that God wants to establish in the world devotion
to the Immaculate Heart, and announces that the First War will end soon. The Second World War
will come after a night illuminated by an unknown light. She says she will ask for the consecration
 of Russia and the communion for reparation on the first Saturdays. If they do not comply with
 these requests, Russia will spread its mistakes throughout the world, promoting wars and persecution
of the Church, several nations will be annihilated. Finally the Immaculate Heart will triumph. The third part
is the famous Third Secret that predicts the Apostasy in the Church and a false holy Father with eyes of the devil.

Our Lady, in the second part of the Message of Fatima, warns the Catholic people against the kommunist revolution,
because the first country in which kommunism managed to settle victoriously was schismatic Russia, and this
 happened at the end of the same year of 1917. This country later provoked wars and persecution of the Church,
including through the infiltration of k ommunist errors into the Catholic Church.

   In the early 1960s came the Second Vatican Council. The Catholic Church then underwent a major change,
the modernism
that had been vigorously condemned by Pope St. Pius X resurfaced with the name of progressivism. Already
in the apparitions
 of La Salette (1846), Our Lady had shown the decay of the clergy, even saying that the priests
 had become “cloaques of impurity”. This situation escalated after the Second Vatican Council,
with the advent of the “new Mass” or Mass of Paul VI and the process of self-demolition of the Church.
There was a great crisis of faith. As the Third Secret should have been disclosed in the early 1960s and was
 not, we have the conviction that this very serious omission was due to the fact that Our Lady had warned
about the action of “demolishing prelates” of the Catholic faith who were infiltrating the Church and
 were the same ones who hid the most important message for the whole world.

   Now, until the year 2000 Catholics in general kept a look of great hope about the apparitions of
 Fatima, considering
its fundamental role in the solution of the apocalyptic crisis in which the Holy Church and the
world are plunged.
 And sinners, in great numbers, looked upon the Message with a fear that was of great value,
 because it was a holy fear of God and of probable future punishments, which prepared its conversion.

   But the Vatican itself did not hide in the year 2000 what the true intention of the disclosure of said Third Secret.
In fact, the spokesperson for the Holy See at the time, Joaquim Navarro Vals, a cash member of Opus Dei, said in
an interview with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that “the decision to publish it comes from the conviction
 that one could not leave Fatima hostage” in the hands of “anti-Ecuмenical and anti-kommunist Catholic traditionalism.”

   This is what the spokesperson for the Holy See declared in an interview with Luigi Accattoli (in
 Corriere della Sera, May 18). Here is the question of Accattoli, and the answer of Navarro-Valls:

“Fátima has always been a ‘battle sword’ of Catholic traditionalism, anti-c0mmunist certainly, but
also anti-ecuмenical. Doesn’t the decision to publish the ‘third part’ of secrecy support that
 traditionalism? And how would such support be reconciled with the ecuмenical impulse of the
 journey to the Holy Land?”

“The publication of prophecy will not... have a papal support for anti-ecuмenical traditionalism,
which had abusively appropriated some aspects of the message of Fatima, speculating in a key  millennial
question about presumed – but not real – contents of that unpublished text. The decision to publish
it ...the conviction that one could not leave Fatima hostage to a partisan position.
 When [the Secret] is known, every aspect of the message of Fatima will find the just proportion
 again, and the whole will be more understandable to all.”

   Well, this maneuver of revolutionary psychological warfare by Navarro-Vals, Cardinal Bertone and
 Cardinal Ratzinger, we must recognize that unfortunately it was successful, because after 15 years,
many Catholics consider that the Third Secret referred to the attack suffered by John Paul II in 1981.
There is no longer a grace of conversion or true fear of God. There was a huge apostasy, with
numerous facts of “self-demolition of the Church” that would be too extensive to enumerate.
Above all, there is no longer talk of devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the defeat
 of c0mmunism and heresies.

   But it was not only the modernist Catholics who fell into the trap, because often the traditionalist
anti-C0mmunist and anti-Ecuмenical Catholics are the ones who make the disclosure... third secret
 without any caveat, many of whom, by the way, even having a much deeper knowledge on the subject
 that I have summed up above, ended up militating on the wrong side, which is very sad.

   Indeed, the Third Secret that has been disclosed, bury a martyrs’ road, a procession with a pope,
bishops, priests, religious, as well as people of the people, who walk to martyrdom. But this does
not correspond to the demolishing prelates, placed in the highest ranks of the ecclesiastical hierarchy,
 nor to the present state of souls of people living outside virtue, sunk in capital vices.

The crisis of the Church, which today is an immense calamity, already in the years of the 1940s
caught the attention of Sister Lucia. Two letters, published by Fr. Antonio Maria Martins, S. J.,
 in his book “The Secret of Fatima – in the Memoirs and Letters of Sister Lucia” (Ed. Loyola,
 São Paulo, 1997 – 10th ed.), show how, in them, Sister Lucy adopts another tone. Let’s look at its content:


“ J. M. J.
“Tuy, 19 12 1940
Your Most Eminent Cardinal Patriarch

..... Our Lord is disgruntled and bitter with the sins of the World and with those of Portugal,
complaining about the lack of correspondence, sinful life of the people, especially of the tepidness?,
indifference and life that lead the majority of priests, religious, and religious. The number of souls
 with whom one is found in prayer and sacrifice is very limited. In reparation for itself and for the
other nations, Our Lord wishes that in Portugal the unholy feasts be abolished in the days of Carnival,
 and replaced by prayers and sacrifices, with public prayers through the streets. I therefore pray
for V. Eminence is deigned, in union with all the Bishops of Portugal, to promote them. ....
With the utmost respect, I ask if you deign to bless the humblest servant of V. Eminence.

Mary Lucia of Jesus”

Or still:

“J. M. J.
Tuy, 4 5 1943
Rev.mo, Lord Superior
Thank God, a letter from V has finally arrived. Rev.a. Oh, my God, how long did it take! .... I can't even
 think it's so far away.... I had to speak to Mr. Archbishop of Valladolid, a message from Our Lord
for the Bishops here in Spain, and other to those of Portugal. .... [Our Lord] wishes the
 [Srs. Bishops] of Spain gather in retreat and determine a reform in the people, clergy and religious orders;
 that some convents and many members of others!... understand? .... If the Mr. Bishops of Spain do not
 meet their wishes, she [Russia] will once again be the whipping with which God punishes them...
I ask if you deign to bless me
Infine servant of V. Rev.a
Mary Lucia of Jesus, R. S. S. D.”

The above letter shows who is the true Sister Lucy, the true seer of Fatima. Very different from
Sister Lucia of Coimbra from the post-Vatican Council II.
We thank the brothers of faith, including those who died, who guided us on the question “Fátima”,
 because otherwise we would not have the slightest idea of what happened. The truth is better, however
hard and difficult it may be, than to live in the realm of lies whose owner is the devil.

We remain always confident in the words of Our Lady at Fatima: “At last my Immaculate Heart will triumph.”








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