Author Topic: Koch agrees that the Greek Orthodox were never in schism... (Read 239 times)

SkidRowCatholic · « **on:** **Today** at 10:47:09 AM »

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-01/lifting-anathemas-60-years-paul-vi-anathagoras-koch-getcha.html

What a relief for so many Orthodox to know they were never in schism...

Papal Bull of Excommunication in 1054

"We thus subscribe to the following anathema which the most reverend Pope has proclaimed upon Michael and his followers unless they should repent.
Michael, neophyte patriarch through abuse of office, who took on the monastic habit out of fear of men alone and is now accused by many of the worst of crimes; and with him Leo called bishop of Achrida; Constantine, chaplain of this Michael, who trampled the sacrifice of the Latins with profane feet; and all their followers in the aforementioned errors and acts of presumption: Let them be anathema Maranatha with the Simoniacs, Valesians, Arians, Donatists, Nicolaitists, Severians, Pneumatomachoi, Manichaeans, Nazarenes, and all the heretics — nay, with the devil himself and his angels, unless they should repent. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN."

Koch’s claim that the 1054 papal act “targeted three specific individuals” is flatly contradicted by the primary text: the parchment placed on the altar of Hagia Sophia names Michael Cerularius, Leo of Achrida, and Constantine and then expressly condemns “and all their followers in the aforementioned errors … Let them be anathema Maranatha … unless they should repent.” To present the docuмent as if it were limited to three persons is not a benign simplification but a selective misreading that erases the operative clause extending the anathema to followers and to the errors they upheld.
Koch compounds the distortion by leaning on a separate legal point — that Pope Leo IX had died and therefore the legates’ act lacked canonical force — and treating that legal caveat as if it nullified the docuмent’s plain content. Validity and content are distinct: historians can legitimately debate whether the bull had full juridical effect after the pope’s death, but that debate does not change what the parchment actually says. Conflating the two turns a procedural question about authority into a retroactive rewriting of the medieval text.

At least Koch admits freely that, "The 1965 Declaration ushered in an eccesiology of Sister Churches."

And, "Metropolitan Job of Pisidia highlighted the work of the many historians from both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches who have undermined the traditional narrative of the ‘schism’ of 1054."

How does a heretic view his heresy? "Pope Leo XIV's decision to omit the clause during the ecuмenical vespers in Rome in September of last year as a sign of "great hope."

And he freely admits that the hierarchy is 100% onboard, but, "unity between the two Churches, will only come once it is desired by the clergy and laity too."

So they will just change the narrative and pretend, "there never was a schism...."

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #1 on:** **Today** at 01:33:32 PM »

Roncalli did that kind of thing already in Turkey in 1920s or 1930s when he had the Filioque removed from the Catholic embassy building.

They really do live in a delusional fantasy world like Fr. Despósito talked about in his modern errors course.

Author Topic: Koch agrees that the Greek Orthodox were never in schism... (Read 239 times)

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