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Keeping up with Francis...
« on: May 26, 2014, 09:36:32 AM »
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    JERUSALEM (AP) — Pope Francis on Monday urged his "brother" Muslims to never abuse God's name through violence as he opened the third and final day of his Mideast pilgrimage with a visit to the Dome of the Rock, the iconic shrine located at the third-holiest spot in Islam.

    Francis took off his shoes to step into the gold-topped dome, which enshrines the rock where Muslims believe the Prophet Mohammad ascended to heaven.

    The mosque complex, known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary and to Jєωs as the Temple Mount, is at the heart of the territorial and religious disputes between Israel and its Arab neighbors.

    Speaking to the grand mufti of Jerusalem and other Muslim authorities, Francis deviated from his prepared remarks to refer not just to his "dear friends" but "dear brothers."

    "May we respect and love one another as brothers and sisters," he said, and added, "May we learn to understand the suffering of others! May no one abuse the name of God through violence!"

    After the brief visit, Francis headed to the Western Wall, the only remains of the biblical Second Temple and the holiest place where Jєωs can pray.


    http://news.yahoo.com/pope-calls-muslims-brothers-dome-rock-061917919.html
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    « Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 08:14:04 AM »
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    ROME (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Monday said he believed that Roman Catholic priests should be celibate but the rule was not an unchangeable dogma, and "the door is always open" to change.



    Pope Francis says papal retirements could become normal in Church Reuters
    Women in love with priests ask pope to make celibacy optional Reuters
    Pope Francis wants Catholics to doubt the Church. He's right. The Week (RSS)
    Pope to hold first meeting with sɛҳuąƖ abuse victims Reuters
    Pope says 'no privileges' for bishops on abuse AFP
    Francis made similar comments when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires but his remarks to reporters on a plane returning from a Middle East trip were the first he has made since becoming pope.

    "Celibacy is not a dogma," he said in answer to a question about whether the Catholic Church could some day allow priests to marry as they can in some other Christian Churches.

    "It is a rule of life that I appreciate very much and I think it is a gift for the Church but since it is not a dogma, the door is always open," he said.

    The Church teaches that a priest should dedicate himself totally to his vocation, essentially taking the Church as his spouse, in order to help fulfill its mission.

    However while priestly celibacy is a tradition going back around 1,000 years, it is not considered dogma, or an unchangeable piece of Church teaching.

    There has been pressure for change, particularly in the wake of recent sɛҳuąƖ abuse scandals with proponents of optional celibacy in the Church arguing that sɛҳuąƖ frustrations could drive some priests to sɛҳuąƖly abuse children.

    But the Church has rejected this argument, saying that paedophilia, whether in the Church or outside of it, is carried out by people with psychological problems.

    Priests are allowed to marry in the Anglican and other Protestant churches as well as in the Orthodox Church.

    (Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Eric Walsh)


     http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-favors-celibacy-priests-door-open-change-004738592.html
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    « Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 10:58:07 AM »
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    « Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 11:18:16 AM »
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  • Here in the Houston School District, muslim girls and women are
    allowed to wear berthas, but you as a Christian do not dare be
    caught with wearing a cross, and any other Christian symbols.

    The secular humanists are in charge here, not the original
    southern Baptists.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 11:47:16 AM »
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  • Perhaps Francis IS the "chief rabbi."
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 12:11:59 PM »
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  • Francis disgusts me. He denies Our Lord openly and collaborates with the enemies of the Faith. I will NEVER submit to his supposed authority.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 11:11:59 PM »
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    Here in the Houston School District, muslim girls and women are
    allowed to wear berthas, but you as a Christian do not dare be
    caught with wearing a cross, and any other Christian symbols.

    The secular humanists are in charge here, not the original
    southern Baptists.

    It might be a good protest for a group of students to make a pint of wearing a crucifix around their necks.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 11:13:09 PM »
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    Perhaps Francis IS the "chief rabbi."

    The word rabbi means teacher. I am glad to see that you recognize the Pope as the chief teacher for the Catholic Church.
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    « Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 11:14:32 PM »
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    Francis disgusts me. He denies Our Lord openly and collaborates with the enemies of the Faith. I will NEVER submit to his supposed authority.

    What a shame. And right after you referred to him as your chief rabbi.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 12:09:11 AM »
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    Francis disgusts me. He denies Our Lord openly and collaborates with the enemies of the Faith. I will NEVER submit to his supposed authority.

    What a shame. And right after you referred to him as your chief rabbi.



    Well poche, we can always count on you to come and remind us of the feel-good novus ordo line.  Would any sede-friendly, SSPX Resistance board be complete without at least one poche ?

    Keep on keeping things conciliar my man.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 12:22:59 AM »
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  • What side "yahoo news" are on? Surely, not the Church's. This is ʝʊdɛօ -Masonic owned and controlled media. The agenda is clear: undermine the exclusivity of the Catholic Church by establishing a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr in which all religions are equal. As a loyal Catholic, one may be offended with such news; but for the world, is exactly want they want to see.

    Dedicate advocates of Modernism exercise complete power over the channels of Catholic information and communications.

    It is naive to come to definitive conclusions solely based on the biased and unreliable information that the enemies of the Church themselves propagate among the many.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 12:47:40 AM »
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    Perhaps Francis IS the "chief rabbi."

    The word rabbi means teacher. I am glad to see that you recognize the Pope as the chief teacher for the Catholic Church.
     :cool: :cool: :cool:


    I expect nothing less from you, poche. I consider Bergoglio nothing but the chief heresiarch, a total moron walking around pretending to have the authority of Christ Himself. And yes, I do consider the Pope the chief teacher of the Faithful; Bergoglio doesn't qualify.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 08:43:30 AM »
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  • I wonder during this interview below, if Francis ever mentioned anything about offending God or sin in general.  Just curious!



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    Pope Francis gave a candid midair press briefing to reporters traveling from back from the Middle East to Rome during which he talked about sex, money, and satanic Mass—and retirement.

    After a grueling but ultimately successful three day visit to one of the most complicated regions on the planet, the idea of retirement probably sounded pretty good to Francis. So it is no surprise that when reporters traveling with him on the papal plane asked if he would consider resigning like his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI, he said he wouldn’t rule it out.

    “I will do what the Lord tells me to do. Pray and try to follow God’s will. Benedict XVI no longer had the strength and honestly, as a man of faith, humble as he is, he took this decision,” Francis said, according to a transcript of his press conference published in La Stampa’s Vatican Insider. “Seventy years ago, popes emeritus didn’t exist. What will happen with popes emeritus? We need to look at Benedict XVI as an institution, he opened a door, that of the popes emeritus. The door is open, whether there will be others, only God knows. I believe that if a bishop of Rome feels he is losing his strength, he must ask himself the same questions Pope Benedict XVI did.”

    He said nothing as startling as his last midair press conference last July when he said “Who am I to judge?” when it came to gαys in the priesthood. Francis did announce that, at least going forward, the Vatican now had a “zero tolerance” approach to the priest sex-abuse scandal. He also told reporters that three bishops are currently under investigation for their roles in the ongoing scandal but stopped short of revealing whether they were under investigation for the cover-up or actual sɛҳuąƖ abuse. “In Argentina we call those who receive preferential treatment ‘daddy’s boys,’ he said. “There will be no ‘daddy’s boys’ in this case. It is a very serious problem.”

    Francis added that in the coming months he would hold a Mass and meet with half a dozen victims, reportedly, according to the Boston Globe, from the United Kingdom, Germany, and Ireland.

    The pope went on to explain that when a priest sɛҳuąƖly abuses a child, he not only betrays that child, but he also betrays the Church as a whole. “A priest must guide children towards sainthood. And the child trusts him. But instead, he abuses him or her. This is very serious,” he said. “It’s like celebrating a black Mass. Instead of steering him or her towards the sainthood you create a problem that will stay with him or her for all of his or her life.”

    By the time the pope and the press landed, however, survivor groups had already discounted the pope’s promise as one more public relations move. “Again, we should all be crystal clear: none of this changes anything,” said Joelle Casteis, the western regional director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests known as SNAP. “It’s not intended to. It’s intended to promote complacency, and complacency is the enemy of reform. It’s intended to mollify the faithful, not safeguard the vulnerable.”

    Casteis says that Francis will be the third pope after Benedict and John Paul II, to meet with victims. “Ask yourself: can you cite a single positive outcome of any of these meetings? We can’t.”

    The pope also talked about the ongoing issue of financial reform of the Vatican’s once-corrupt financial entities. In what was perhaps the most surprising revelation of his remarks, he confirmed rumors swirling around Rome that the Holy See’s former secretary of state Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone is indeed being investigated for a discrepancy of around $20 million (€15 million) that somehow made it from the Vatican Bank (known as the Institute for the Works of Religion) to a private television company called Lux Vide under his watch as Benedict’s number two.

    “The Lord Jesus once told his disciples: scandals are inevitable, we are humans and all of us are sinners… Economic administration requires honesty and transparency,” the pope said, according to reporters on the plane. “I would like to say one thing: the question regarding the €15 million is still being looked into; it is not yet clear what happened.”

    The pope also took a question about priest celibacy after 26 women dating priests wrote him a letter essentially asking him for permission to sleep with their priest boyfriends.

    “The Catholic Church has married priests in the Eastern rites,” he conceded. “Celibacy is not a dogma of faith, it is a rule of life that I appreciate a great deal and I believe it is a gift for the Church. The door is always open given that it is not a dogma of faith.”

    Less than 12 hours after he landed, the pope was already on the move again, making a surprise visit to the Basilica of Saint Mary Major in Rome on Tuesday morning to pray to the Virgin Mary after his trip. And he won’t get much rest before his next big event. On June 1, he will preside over a massive open-air Catholic Charismatic Renewal celebration at Rome’s Olympic Stadium in front of a crowd expected to top 50,000. In August he will travel to South Korea. With such a busy schedule, no one can blame the 77-year-old leader of the world’s 1 billion Catholics for at least thinking about retirement from time to time.


    http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-says-might-retire-094500239--politics.html
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    « Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 03:00:43 PM »
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  • Always something new:

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    « Reply #14 on: June 24, 2014, 07:04:28 PM »
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  • Jergo M. Bergoglio claimed Vicar says not to judge.    St. Jerome observes, Christ does not altogether forbid judging, but directs us how to judge. ,,,,

    Barefaced vice and notorious sinners should be condemned and reprobated by all. (Haydock)
    ,,,,
    Besides, admonishing the sinner is one of the seven spiritual works of mercy...
    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/#.U6oQzlIg_94