Author Topic: Keeping up with Francis... (Read 3679 times)

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2014, 11:33:22 PM »

Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2014, 04:17:14 AM »

Quote from: LuAnne

Jergo M. Bergoglio claimed Vicar says not to judge. St. Jerome observes, Christ does not altogether forbid judging, but directs us how to judge. ,,,,

Barefaced vice and notorious sinners should be condemned and reprobated by all. (Haydock)
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Besides, admonishing the sinner is one of the seven spiritual works of mercy...
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/#.U6oQzlIg_94

Exactly, when the sinner wanders into the church in goodwill it is best not to crush the bruised reed or to put out the flickering wick. Judgement is for those who are obstinate in their sin.

poche · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2014, 04:20:50 AM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

The Pope is trying to appeal to weveryone. Sometimes we have to behave the behaviour of a Christian. Living the life of a Christian is more important the ornaments that we wear.

2Vermont · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2014, 06:50:06 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

The Pope is trying to appeal to weveryone. Sometimes we have to behave the behaviour of a Christian. Living the life of a Christian is more important the ornaments that we wear.

ORNAMENTS?

Well, maybe your humble pope will change tradition (again) and stop wearing his "ornament" for good. I mean, it's just an ornament.

2Vermont · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2014, 06:51:46 AM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

And deny Christ.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:26:33 AM »

Think about it...! a POPE, Vicar of Christ, (in your opinion), here you see a "True Pope" actually hiding the symbol of his belief, what kind of example is that anyway. That act alone should tell all of you people who hang his picture in your churches and think of him as a pope, you should be shaking in your boots right now.

2Vermont · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:51:26 AM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Think about it...! a POPE, Vicar of Christ, (in your opinion), here you see a "True Pope" actually hiding the symbol of his belief, what kind of example is that anyway. That act alone should tell all of you people who hang his picture in your churches and think of him as a pope, you should be shaking in your boots right now.

Oh stop overreacting Myrna! Francis is appealing to everyone! He's everybody's buddy. Except those of us who have got his number, of course.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2014, 10:53:40 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

Quote from: MyrnaM
Think about it...! a POPE, Vicar of Christ, (in your opinion), here you see a "True Pope" actually hiding the symbol of his belief, what kind of example is that anyway. That act alone should tell all of you people who hang his picture in your churches and think of him as a pope, you should be shaking in your boots right now.

Oh stop overreacting Myrna! Francis is appealing to everyone! He's everybody's buddy. Except those of us who have got his number, of course.

The number that comes to my mind is 666.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2014, 11:30:01 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

Quote from: MyrnaM
Think about it...! a POPE, Vicar of Christ, (in your opinion), here you see a "True Pope" actually hiding the symbol of his belief, what kind of example is that anyway. That act alone should tell all of you people who hang his picture in your churches and think of him as a pope, you should be shaking in your boots right now.

Oh stop overreacting Myrna! Francis is appealing to everyone! He's everybody's buddy. Except those of us who have got his number, of course.

I agree, the "pope" who fits all sizes.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2014, 12:09:10 PM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

The Pope is trying to appeal to weveryone. Sometimes we have to behave the behaviour of a Christian. Living the life of a Christian is more important the ornaments that we wear.

Poche,

Are you saying that a "Christian" should be ashamed of the Cross?

MarylandTrad · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2014, 12:36:33 PM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

The Pope is trying to appeal to weveryone. Sometimes we have to behave the behaviour of a Christian. Living the life of a Christian is more important the ornaments that we wear.

What a ridiculous statement. If you hide the Cross and perform good works, then you are not earning praise for Jesus Christ, but for yourself alone.

That is why so many Christ deniers like Protestants, fallen away Catholics, and Jews, say they love Pope Francis, but it does not lead to conversion and love of Jesus Christ. They say they love Pope Francis and yet they remain Protestants, fallen away Catholics, and Jews.

When you perform good works yet hide the fact that you are Christian you are only earning praise for yourself and not Jesus Christ. It is the opposite of humility.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2014, 01:18:52 PM »

Poche,

The Pope should be nice to everyone but how nice is a guy who knows that someone who is following a false religion and is damning his soul by doing so then quietly allows him to continue in this path of damnation? Now, if the Pope does tell them that they must convert, and they tell him to shove off, then that's their problem.

By remaining quiet, and hiding the cross, the Pope is, by default, granting that other faiths are means of salvation.

And a person can act like a Christian without having to hide the cross. I don't think Our Lord wants the successor of St. Peter to act like he is ashamed of Our Lord before men. I think, if my memory is correct, Our Lord had a warning directed toward those men who deny Him before men.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #27 on:** June 26, 2014, 04:41:43 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

Quote from: poche
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Poche,

By hiding the pectoral cross in a pocket, what message is Pope Francis telling us?

Is the pope saying that getting Lang with those who deny Our Lord is more important than devotion to Our Lord?

Ok, so maybe Pope Francis was just trying to be "neutral". However, the other men are leaders of false religions and are Christ-deniers so these meetings are a good chance for Pope Francis to tell them to renounce their false beliefs and convert because the Church will receive them with open arms. However, Pope Francis chose instead to hide the cross and he gave the very clear impression that These false religions are, at the very least, equal to Catholicism.

Was the purpose of this interfaith meeting merely a public relations event?

Those souls ensnared in the false religions of Islam and Judaism desperately need to be released from the putrid trap in which they are entangled. Sadly, and bewilderingly, Pope Francis instead chose to hide his cross.

The Pope is trying to appeal to weveryone. Sometimes we have to behave the behaviour of a Christian. Living the life of a Christian is more important the ornaments that we wear.

ORNAMENTS?

Well, maybe your humble pope will change tradition (again) and stop wearing his "ornament" for good. I mean, it's just an ornament.

And maybe he'll stop wearing a white cassock. That's racist!

poche · « **Reply #28 on:** June 26, 2014, 10:36:32 PM »

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Pope Francis continued his series of Wednesday general audiences on the Church and emphasized that belonging to the Church is essential to being a Christian.

“We are Christians because we belong to the Church," Pope Francis said. “It’s like a last name: if the first name is ‘I am a Christian,’ the last name is ‘I belong to the Church.’”

“No one becomes a Christian by himself,” the Pope continued, as he explained that Christians receive their faith in baptism and through catechesis. He asked those assembled in St. Peter’s Square to recall the faces of parents, grandparents, priests, nuns, and others who taught them the sign of the cross, prayers, and the content of the faith. “I always remember the face of the nun who taught me catechism,” he said, as he called the Church “a large family.”

“There are those who believe you can have a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside of the communion and the mediation of the Church,” he continued. “These are dangerous and harmful temptations.”

The Pope concluded by asking the Virgin Mary to pray “the grace never to fall into the temptation” of thinking that we do not need the Church. “On the contrary, you cannot love God without loving the brothers, you cannot love God outside of the Church; you cannot be in communion with God without being in the Church.”

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21814

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #29 on:** June 27, 2014, 01:47:12 AM »

Quote from: Charlemagne

Quote from: 2Vermont
Quote from: MyrnaM
Think about it...! a POPE, Vicar of Christ, (in your opinion), here you see a "True Pope" actually hiding the symbol of his belief, what kind of example is that anyway. That act alone should tell all of you people who hang his picture in your churches and think of him as a pope, you should be shaking in your boots right now.

Oh stop overreacting Myrna! Francis is appealing to everyone! He's everybody's buddy. Except those of us who have got his number, of course.

The number that comes to my mind is 666.

If 666 is evil, then is 25.806976 the root of evil?

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