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Just met a second fssp priest.
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 07:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Nadir
Some of the Compromises of FSSP:

Priests Trained to Say N.O. Masses;
New Rite for Confirmations;
New Calendar for Feast Days

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B556_FSSP.html


Yes, this is all false.

We had to attend an FSSP parish for three years. They follow the Traditional calendar and Holy Days.

Confirmations were done in the Traditional Rite.

I don't know if there are any combined N.O./Trad parishes in the FSSP (the way there are at Indult Masses) but our FSSP parish had no Novus Ordo Masses at all. ANd I am not sure if those priests even knew how to say it. Maybe they learn it in the seminary or something, but I never saw one do it in our parish.

Just met a second fssp priest.
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 11:45:42 PM »
Obviously I haven't met every traditionalist priest in the world, but none of those I have met know how to say the N.O.  In fact, they also don't know the traditional English hymns even, such as Immaculate Mary, O God Almighty Father, etc.


Just met a second fssp priest.
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2017, 07:31:18 PM »
Quote from: Jovita
The first one convinced me that fssp was created to capture traditionalists. This second guy at a growing community must have the folks duped or they are just sooo desperate that they oversee the obvious flaw in this priest. He is NOT a traditionalist. I am willing to give it one more try, just to say, three strikes your out.




Sorry to hear that.

The FSSP priests I know do not celebrate the N.O. One expressly stated that he does not know how to celebrate the N.O. Mass and couldn't even describe it. They may share chapels if necessary but FSSP follow the 1962 calendar and offer the Traditional Latin Mass.

I have never felt that the FSSP was trying to pull me away or "capture" me from the traditional Church but has actually led me deeper into the traditional Church.

I am wondering what it is that convinced you that he was not a traditionalist?









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Just met a second fssp priest.
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 09:03:57 PM »
I was pursuing a vocation back in the early 90's. I met Fr. Bissig and Emerson.  Both very nice.  I also communicated with +Williamson.  He told me the problem with the Fraternity was not the validity of the Mass, it was the sin of omission.  By their refusal to point out modernism and modernists in Rome they place Souls in grave danger.  +Fellay use to say that they make the true Mass just another side show in the Ecuмanism Circus.  About eight years ago I attended a FSSP Mass in Knoxville TN. It was held at a joint parish.  I got there early to find the tambourine / guitar "Spanish Mass" was just wrapping up.  Then came the set change...quickly push the table up to the altar and change the candlesticks.  When the FSSP was finished...this is no lie...the Byzantines rolled out Icons and rearranged the sanctuary once again for the "Divine Liturgy ".

It made me sad to see how true +Fellay was...the True Mass was just another show in the tent...sad that he no longer cares about that.

+Williamson was write as well. As can be seen by the Neo SSPX.  They now commit the same sin of omission.  Their priests have been compromised.  They are no longer "Worriors" of the faith ready to do battle for Christ the King but rather "Gentlemen", prepared to discuss the differences between Eternal Rome and Conciliar Rome...if they even still use those terms.

The FSSP (etc...) is not dangerous necessarily because of what they do, but because of what they don't do.

Just met a second fssp priest.
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 11:03:32 PM »
Quote from: Ekim

I was pursuing a vocation back in the early 90's. I met Fr. Bissig and Emerson.  Both very nice.  I also communicated with +Williamson.  He told me the problem with the Fraternity was not the validity of the Mass, it was the sin of omission.  By their refusal to point out modernism and modernists in Rome they place Souls in grave danger.  +Fellay used to say that they make the true Mass just another side show in the Ecuмenism Circus.
 
About eight years ago I attended a FSSP Mass in Knoxville TN. It was held at a joint parish.  I got there early to find the tambourine / guitar "Spanish Mass" was just wrapping up.  Then came the set change...quickly push the table up to the altar and change the candlesticks.  When the FSSP was finished...this is no lie...the Byzantines rolled out Icons and rearranged the sanctuary once again for the "Divine Liturgy ".

It made me sad to see how accurate +Fellay [used to be]...the True Mass was just another show in the tent...sad that he no longer cares about that.

+Williamson was right as well. As can be seen by the Neo SSPX.  They now commit the same sin of omission.  Their priests have been compromised.  They are no longer "Warriors" of the faith ready to do battle for Christ the King but rather "Gentlemen", prepared to discuss the differences between Eternal Rome and Conciliar Rome...if they even still use those terms.

The FSSP (etc...) is not dangerous necessarily because of what they do, but because of what they don't do.


It seems you're lumping the FSSP, +Fellay and +Williamson all in the same group together, no? Progressively becoming capitulant?