Quote from: Telesphorus

You're mixing a lot of issues together.  

Edgaro Mortara was a baptized Christian.  He shouldn't have been raised by his parents once he was a baptized Christian.  If you do hold to Father Feeney's positions on Baptism then it's surprising you don't think it was right to protect his Christian Faith.

So what you are saying is that the Catholic church endorses kidnapping if a child is baptized and the parents are not?
Surely you jest.

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  Its no joke Leisa. Club Infallible leads to insanity. The previous pope warned Pius IX would destroy the Church.  The 9th son who became Pius IX - 9 is a Satanic number, just like 13 (which you see in Fatima). This new Gospel of Pius IX has caused nothing but misery. Agreements with Mussolini and Hiter? Vatican II ?

  They still are attracted to burning dissenters at the stake.  :heretic:

  Douay-Rheims Bible
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And power was given him over every tribe, and people, and tongue, and nation

Isn't Vatican City a nation ?

 Christ Himself said the end times would be like the days of Noah. The True Faith survived in the Ark with only 8 people.

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  It is so humbling being so fallible. Check out the old Catholic rites that have been translated into English. Makes the Novus Ordo look pretty secular. I would like to have a mass like this spoken in English. The Holy Spirit enabled the Apostles to be understood in other languages so to me hearing English would be better than the Latin Mass.

  Instead of Begin the Bugini, how about another tune? how about something from circa 962 instead of 1962 ? IF you did it right you could bring Orthodox back to the Church and with English, you could even reel in the Protestants.

What sayeth all ye learned elders of Cathinfo ?

(from a forum)

http://orthodoxengland.blogspot.com/

This site has hundreds of pages of ancient Western rites from before the schism, translated and carefuly following the proscriptions of the Russian Synod in the 19th century.

As one can see, although there are differences, one can notice that there is a preponderance of respect given to things that are natural to the True Orthodox Christians today. There is no "reductionism", and contrary to the mythology, Western Orthodox services were not all that much "shorter" than Eastern ones. (This misconception crept in because later Papist services were very short.)

All of this and Recusant too on the other thread. Will the madness never end?  Nope. Think Satan has turned up the heat.