Author Topic: JPIIs "Mark of Shiva" Simply a Cultural Greeting? (Read 7552 times)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2011, 11:10:58 AM »

Yeah, and at Assisi II they removed or covered all the crucifixes to accommodate the heretics.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2011, 11:15:09 AM »

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarti

When one invites the members of false religions to pray together with Catholics at a Catholic Church one is approving of false worship. The Pope approved of and encouraged idolatry

I thought they prayed outside the church, but I could be mistaken.

So inviting a Prot to pray with you for peace at a Catholic Church is approving of false worship?

I'm not sure anyone is going to buy that.

It wasn't just "a prot". And yes, approving of Protestant worship is heretical.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2011, 11:43:16 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: stevusmagnus
Quote from: Telesphorus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarti

When one invites the members of false religions to pray together with Catholics at a Catholic Church one is approving of false worship. The Pope approved of and encouraged idolatry

I thought they prayed outside the church, but I could be mistaken.

So inviting a Prot to pray with you for peace at a Catholic Church is approving of false worship?

I'm not sure anyone is going to buy that.

It wasn't just "a prot". And yes, approving of Protestant worship is heretical.

Is attending the Prot wedding of a Prot friend approving of Prot worship? Would that make you a heretic?

Allowing non-Catholic worship in Catholic Churches can be criticized and has been done so. Even JPII himself recognized bad things that happened at Assisi. The Buddha on the altar etc. caused scandal and outrage, etc.

Claiming that to allow non-Catholic worship in a Catholic Church means you 100% approve and endorse the worship taking place there is quite another. There you get into speculation as to the Pope's intent which is a dead end.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:18:13 PM »

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Claiming that to allow non-Catholic worship in a Catholic Church means you 100% approve and endorse the worship taking place there is quite another. There you get into speculation as to the Pope's intent which is a dead end.

Why were the member of the other religions brought there?

To pray in their own respective religions - the purpose of bringing them there was for them to engage in their own worship.

There is no possible confusion about the Pope's intent. It was to encourage non-Christian worship in a Catholic venue.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:10:31 PM »

Led me give some insight here. First of all, attending a Prot wedding or funeral does not make one a heretic. Just don't participate in any of the prayers or anything and you'll be fine. That's not a problem. What is a problem though is that JPII invited not only the Prots, but the Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists, etc. and as I said in another thread, during Assissi II he refused to offer Mass on Sunday so as "not to offend anyone". Assissi I and II were disastors waiting to happen, and the same can be said for Assissi III.