Author Topic: JPII orchestrated and loaded the deck for his own canonization (Read 792 times)

crossbro · « **on:** April 22, 2014, 02:45:22 AM »

Quote

He made his first move in 1983, when, without notice, he abolished the office of the Devil’s advocate. His second move came in 1999 when he realized that his health was declining, and he then waived the condition that prevented the process of canonization from beginning until five years after a candidate’s death. Hence, the rule that had traditionally been used to allow for a more objective look at a person’s life and achievements no longer applied, and Pope John Paul II’s canonization process started just a few weeks after his death. As a result of his own rule changes, John Paul II is now soaring toward sainthood faster than any person in Catholic history.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2014, 09:36:05 AM »

John Paul II "streamlined" the process because he like canonizing hundreds of people every year, not necessarily with himself in mind.

Similarly, the 1999 move was with regard to Mother Theresa, who had died in 1997. I think that he wanted to be the one to canonize her.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2014, 12:16:22 PM »

.

The title of this thread seems to have a typo:

JPII orchestrated and loaded the deck for his ~~ordination~~ [own canonization].

The pope's first responsibility is to protect sacred Tradition. If he does not do so, he fails in his primary obligation.

The reason Tradition requires such protection is, the devil is always attacking it because it is his enemy. Tradition is the enemy of the devil. The devil is the enemy of Tradition. They are inimical to each other; the devil and Tradition are mutually inimical. They always have been and they always will be.

Therefore, any pope who fails in his primary duty is on the side of the devil, not of God.

Any pope who does not protect Sacred Tradition with his very life (thus the Tradition of the pope wearing red slippers - which Francis does not wear) is doing the work of the devil.

.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2014, 12:47:11 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

John Paul II "streamlined" the process because he like canonizing hundreds of people every year, not necessarily with himself in mind.

Similarly, the 1999 move was with regard to Mother Theresa, who had died in 1997. I think that he wanted to be the one to canonize her.

It would seem to be this was the case. And if so, the motive for making the changes was a very shallow and short-sighted motive, a selfish one, a blind act of ignorance as to what is the true good of the Church. The Pope's obligation is to be the servant of Holy Mother Church, not to make the Church the servant of the pope.

So any pope who changes rules so as to effect his own dreams coming true, even if they come true after he dies, is a pope who is making the Church into a servant of his own whims and subjective yearnings. He could be said to have re-made the Church into his own image. That would then not be Our Lord Jesus Christ's Church but rather JPII's church. And if that is what so-called canonizes JPII, then he becomes a "saint" of his own church. He becomes saint JPII of the church of JPII. It's a JPII-ism 'sainthood'.

"I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten diadems, and upon his heads names of blasphemy... And he opened his mouth unto blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwelt in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And power was given him over every tribe, and people, and tongue, and nation" (Apoc. xiii. 1.6-7).

Knowing Sacred Scripture is a big help in times like this, because, if you know Scripture, this should not come as any surprise: "Behold I have told it to you, beforehand" (Matt. xxiv. 25).

.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2014, 01:00:06 PM »

.

The new icons of Newchurch are pushed, pushed, pushed, and longstanding holy men and women of long ago are sidelined and made to wait even longer for their canonizations.

What has become of the cause of Fr. Junipero Serra? -who founded many of the California Missions, and although he was lame, he had walked the entire distance of Southern California several times, from San Diego to San Francisco and back again, and again, and again, building up Christ's Church as his Seraphic Father had done so long beforehand.

What of Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres? -who died three times and suffered the pains of hell for her friend whose salvation she secured, and who prophesied the crisis in the Church 400 years beforehand.

What of Blessed Miguel Pro? -who died a martyr for the Faith in Mexico, whose last words were, Long live Christ the King! Long live the Virgin of Guadalupe! ("Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!")

...and many more!

.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2014, 01:05:47 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

.

The title of this thread seems to have a typo:

JPII orchestrated and loaded the deck for his ~~ordination~~ [own canonization].

.

Thank you, MaterDomenici.

.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2014, 01:13:49 PM »

Not surprising at all. I knew there was a reason he went from dead to canonized by Rome in such an expedited amount of time.