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John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:23:34 AM »
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  • (Is there salvation outside the Church for Extra-Terrestrials? AJNC)

    http://traditioninaction.org/History/G_022_PopeET.htm


    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked
    to an Extra-Terrestrial
    This text was published in the Diario Popular, an Argentinean newspaper, on April 27, 2014, but came to our knowledge only recently when we saw it posted in the Spanish blog Amor de la Verdad. The source used by the newspaper appears to be credible: a close relative of Msgr. Loris Capovila, today a Cardinal and formerly the private secretary of John XXIII.

    Since the subject of contacts with ETs is quite controversial, we leave the evaluation of the objectivity of this report to each of our readers. TIA
    The Archbishop of Marseille, a past chairman of CEFAL (France - Latin America Episcopal committee), also clearly favors liberation theology, which pleases the progressivists.

    An Argentine visionary who discerns energies invisible to the average man … asserted that Pope John XXIII had direct contacts with extra-terrestrial beings such as the one that was witnessed and documented by a priest who officiated as private secretary of the Pontiff.

    Loris Capovila

    A credible reportt from a relative of Cardinal Lois Capovilla, above, then private secretary of John XXIII
    Luis Sartori, who since his childhood has the gift of capturing radionic energy that allows access to the his visions, told Beyond the Mystery [a section of Diario Popular] that John XXIII, the good, had a singular encounter with a being who descended from an extra-terrestrial spacecraft in the papal vacation residence of Castelgandolfo in the summer of 1961.

    The information provided by Sartori is not unprecedented, since links of John XXIII with beings from other planets is something that has been reported before. This case must be added to other events with supernatural characteristics. Indeed, it is said that in 1959 the then Bishop of Rome maintained a dialogue with God and the Virgin, who would have revealed to him many mysteries about the future of mankind.

    Sartori cites an eyewitness account of the meeting that Pope John had with creatures from other worlds. The testimony comes from the religious Loris Capovilla, a family member, a first cousin of Sartori’s maternal grandmother.

    Capovilla was an assistant and personal secretary of John XXIII. One night in July of 1961, he relates, they were walking through the gardens of the residence when they saw in the sky an unknown spacecraft radiating colored lights approaching them.

    In a document that reached the hands of Sartori, Capovilla speaks directly of the extraordinary episode, affirming: "We saw a spaceship over our heads. It was oval and had flashing blue and amber lights." The account of the then assistant of the Pope emphasized that the ship soon landed and rested "on the south lawn of the gardens. A strange being came out of it. He seemed like a human except that he was surrounded by a golden light and had large elongated ears."

    "His Holiness and I knelt down. We did not know what we were seeing, but we knew that it was not of this world, so it should be a celestial event," reported the religious, who witnessed with the Pope the incredible episode.

    Transcendental meeting

    As he read the text of his distant relative, Sartori stressed the next part as undoubtedly more significant:

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    "We prayed and when we raised our eyes, the being was still there. This was proof that we were not having a vision. The Holy Father stood up and walked toward the being. The two talked for about 20 minutes. They did not call to me so I stayed where I was, and I could not hear anything that they said. Finally the being turned around, walked toward the ship and left."

    The testimonial of the meeting between John XXIII and an extra-terrestrial that came into the hands of Sartori includes the final reflections of his relative:

    "His Holiness came back and told me that the children of God are everywhere, and sometimes we have difficulty recognizing our own brothers."

    The Vatican and NASA join in extraterrestrial research

    Luis Sartori holds that since this event, which had as a main protagonist Pope John XXIII, the Catholic Church has increased her investigations regarding extra-terrestrials.

    “What is more,” he affirmed, “the Church accepts the existence of extra-terrestrials and has even joined with NASA in a very secret place in some sort of hidden research center in order to follows night and day the movements” of these beings and their spacecrafts.

    Original in Spanish here

    Posted December 8, 2014

    Offline Ladislaus

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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 08:43:50 AM »
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  • Rosicrucians have been known to conjure various "alien spirits".


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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 09:56:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Rosicrucians have been known to conjure various "alien spirits".

    I appreciate this information. I think that Piers Compton in The Broken Cross writes that JXXIII was into this sort of thing. I'm really disappointed that TIA did not do some research before publishing this article.

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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 12:32:14 PM »
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  • Two questions:
    Why would the pope, or anyone else, kneel?
    Why didn't the pope follow the Biblical injunction to "test the spirits"?

    It occurs to me that, if this report is true, it indicates a problem with pride, in making the assumption that the purported vision was not demonic. Test first, then decide whether or not to kneel, lest thou unknowingly kneel to a demon.
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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 03:35:09 PM »
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  • I wonder what they were smoking  :smoke-pot:... I live quite close to Roswell, so I have seen some little green men myself when I was a kid and passing by. I even bought myself some toys :-), and I shot those aliens with my other toy G.I. Joe's I had. They stood no chance against my M-16 automatic rifles  :light-saber: .

    If it comes TIA, I would take it with a grain of salt. As far as Roncalli is concerned we know the man is a liar, he said publically that he was inspired by the Holy Ghost to call an Ecumenical Council. While we know for certain that he had this idea all along, there are several sources that proves this. So yeah, I highly doubt he saw this. As to the other Cardinal, I don't know haven't read much about him maybe a fellow Lodge member? Who knows...  :tinfoil:

    I say we all gather our resources and build a bunker, before they invade. Ohh wait, many others already beat us to it.  :wink:

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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 08:42:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: AJNC
    "We saw a spaceship over our heads. It was oval and had flashing blue and amber lights."


    Reminds me of the "Divine Mercy" picture.

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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #6 on: December 12, 2014, 09:54:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Rosicrucians have been known to conjure various "alien spirits".


    I have spotted this today:
    "Angelo Roncalli took the name of John XXIII, last used (1410-15) by antipope Baldassare Cossa, possibly because, according to Pier Carpi (Les Properties de Jean XXIII, 1976), under that name he joined the masonic Rosicrucians in Turkey (1935)"
    From: The Enemy is Here by Hutton Gibson.p.89

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    John XXIII, the Pope Who Talked to an Extra-Terrestrial
    « Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 07:36:16 AM »
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  • John XXIII is an enigmatic figure to me, same as for other Popes:

    Popes and Latin
    "Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the faithful" Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani

    "Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop


     

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