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Author Topic: Una cuм mortal sin?  (Read 5218 times)

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Re: Una cuм mortal sin?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2022, 07:49:08 PM »
Is it always permissible for the priest to say "Una cuм Petrus" as is done during an interregnum. Can it be used as a wild card by a priest who can't remember the regal name, or doubts the identity, or status of the papal claimants?

Re: Una cuм mortal sin?
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2022, 09:55:44 PM »
Should it be presumed that all priests of the sspx mention the name of the current pope in the Canon?
Is this the sxpx official public position? And where can one see the official position?
SSPX is officially sedeplenist. So, of course they pray for the pope in the Mass. 


Re: Una cuм mortal sin?
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2022, 10:17:35 PM »
People have accused me of being a dogamtic SV.  I'm nothing of the sort.  I'm a dogmatic indefectibilist.  To attribute Vatican II and the NOM to the Holy Catholic Church is to undermine the Church's indefectibility ... unless you're engaged in the types of gymnastics where you try to assert that they're reconcilable with Tradition and most of the NOM aberrations are simply "abuses".
Ultimately, I stand with you in that position. It's honestly what drew me from FE when I started taking the sede position seriously, as the indefectibility of the Church is the key issue on identifying the V2 sect as false; the question of the vacant See is secondary. And while I don't hold to either sedeimpoundism or sedeprivationism anymore, I believe the See is vacant, I also cannot sit here and say that people are heretics for adhering to liturgies that name Bergoglio as Pope are heretics or in mortal sin.

Re: Una cuм mortal sin?
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2022, 06:53:18 AM »
Ultimately, I stand with you in that position. It's honestly what drew me from FE when I started taking the sede position seriously, as the indefectibility of the Church is the key issue on identifying the V2 sect as false; the question of the vacant See is secondary. And while I don't hold to either sedeimpoundism or sedeprivationism anymore, I believe the See is vacant, I also cannot sit here and say that people are heretics for adhering to liturgies that name Bergoglio as Pope are heretics or in mortal sin.
I am sitting where you are DL (although I've never held sedeimpoundism nor sedeprivationism... I have always held sedevacantism).