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Author Topic: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen  (Read 807 times)

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Re: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2020, 08:41:44 AM »
I no she’s not an apostle but they also say she not the not the prostitute and they quote st. Thomas Aquinas who called her the apostle to the apostles.

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Re: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2020, 08:57:07 AM »
I no she’s not an apostle but they also say she not the not the prostitute and they quote st. Thomas Aquinas who called her the apostle to the apostles.

Right, St. Thomas was using the term loosely (as meaning on who is sent out as an emissary) and combines it with the technical term for the Apostles.  So it's like a play on words.  St. Mary Magdalene was sent to announce the news of the Resurrection to the Apostles.

It's like with other terms in the early Church that took on very precise theological meanings.

Original word for "priest" was simply an "elder".

Original word for "bishop" was simply an "overseer".

But these were ordinary words that were adopted by the Church and given theological meaning.

We have that today even.  So, for instance, the word "grace" has a common ordinary meaning.  But when used in the context of Catholic theology, it has a very specialized theological meaning.  So also "charity".  This kind of thing was already happening in the early Church, where common terms were being given very precise theological meaning.  And the Modernists deny this, and so claim that the early Church had no concept of a "priest," except that they were "elders" in the community.  That's complete garbage, since there are records of very YOUNG priests from the beginning.  They were considered "elders" in a spiritual sense, as part of a spiritual hierarchy.

What these Modernists do is the equivalent of the following.  Let's say there was a worldwide catastrophe, and a thousand years from now archaeologists discovered some Catholics texts talking about "charity".  Because they are unacquainted with the theological context, they claim that this word just means "generosity".


Re: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2020, 10:31:01 AM »
It's like with other terms in the early Church that took on very precise theological meanings.

Original word for "priest" was simply an "elder".

Original word for "bishop" was simply an "overseer".

But these were ordinary words that were adopted by the Church and given theological meaning.
Another example of this is the word for "deacon" meant "servant".  There were women acting as servants of the Church who were referred to by the feminine form of this word.  This is the basis of the claim one sometimes hears that there were deaconesses in the early Church and therefore we should ordain women as deacons now.  This is a dishonest and false claim.  Women never had the role of deacon that men had and were never ordained.  They merely served the Church, for example, assisting in baptisms of women for the sake of modesty.

Returning to the original topic, treating St. Mary Magdalene as an apostle is not a new thing invented by feminists.  This idea was a characteristic of the ancient Gnostic heresy and is seen in many of their writings. One would think this would be enough to make people cautious of the idea, but in 2016, Pope Francis had St. Mary Magdalene's day raised from a memorial to a feast, on the grounds that she should be celebrated as an apostle. 

Re: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2020, 12:51:33 PM »
I recently heard an apostate tell me that Peter was never appointed first Pope by Our Lord.
Evidently, this person does not believe in the Bible.

Re: Feminists co-opting Mary Magdalen
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2020, 06:06:25 PM »
Evidently, this person does not believe in the Bible.
He does!  He considers peter a bishop, but not  the first pope.