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Offline parentsfortruth

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It's been confirmed
« on: March 08, 2010, 10:40:26 AM »
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  • A visiting priest this week, who held a mission at my Church with another priest, told me this.

    He saw Malachi Martin's episcopal robes. He was, indeed, a bishop. He was also a Cardinal. He was made one "in pectore" by Pius XII. He was sent to Czechoslovakia to do some work behind the Iron Curtain.

    He also saw the notes for the book he had been working on before he died. He was going to "tell all." The book was going to be called, "Primacy: How the Institutionalized Roman Catholic Church became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr." The notes were taken by someone who was going to print the book, but alas, they have not done so. They are now gone, and the priest I spoke with has no idea where they are.

    This priest has Cardinal Martin's missal and a few other personal effects that belonged to him.

    Whenever someone has something that the enemies of the Church do not want people to know, they try to destroy that person, as they did with Cardinal Martin. They claimed he was a "marrano" and an "adulterer" and all kinds of slanderous venom against that person.

    All I have to say, is thank God for him, and the good he did for people still has not been fully realized, and for the love of God.

    I only hope this confirmation does not induce arguing, but only edification and hope that we can save our souls.

    As for me, I will be asking Cardinal Martin to recommend me to Our Lord, and I hope you might do the same.
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    « Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 10:58:13 AM »
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  • Do not be surprised, and do not take it as mere "arguing" (in the pejorative sense), if some dispute the claims.  Such is actually to be expected.

    Thank you for the information.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 11:35:11 AM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    A visiting priest this week, who held a mission at my Church with another priest, told me this.

    He saw Malachi Martin's episcopal robes. He was, indeed, a bishop. He was also a Cardinal. He was made one "in pectore" by Pius XII. He was sent to Czechoslovakia to do some work behind the Iron Curtain.

    He also saw the notes for the book he had been working on before he died. He was going to "tell all." The book was going to be called, "Primacy: How the Institutionalized Roman Catholic Church became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr." The notes were taken by someone who was going to print the book, but alas, they have not done so. They are now gone, and the priest I spoke with has no idea where they are.

    This priest has Cardinal Martin's missal and a few other personal effects that belonged to him.

    Whenever someone has something that the enemies of the Church do not want people to know, they try to destroy that person, as they did with Cardinal Martin. They claimed he was a "marrano" and an "adulterer" and all kinds of slanderous venom against that person.

    All I have to say, is thank God for him, and the good he did for people still has not been fully realized, and for the love of God.

    I only hope this confirmation does not induce arguing, but only edification and hope that we can save our souls.

    As for me, I will be asking Cardinal Martin to recommend me to Our Lord, and I hope you might do the same.


    As much as I have great respect for Father Malachi Martin, Pope Pius XII did not name any in pectore cardinals (when Popes do this, they announce it - without naming the names).

    Also, interestingly, Pope Pius IX was raised to the cardinalature in pectore.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 11:53:21 AM »
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  • sounds like a lot of supposition and rumour mill........a "some one told something he said abou someone else about something"....

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    « Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 11:56:09 AM »
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    A visiting priest this week, who held a mission at my Church with another priest, told me this.


    curious, too, how is this hearsay "confirmation" of anything? Nothing against your clergy, but.....
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    « Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 12:06:39 PM »
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  • IF this forum were angelqueen, all the members of this thread would be banned for evening mentioning malachi martin. Servitums because enraged when like a psychopath when his name is brought up. Of course, serv also hates Fatima, so psychosis is to be expected from him.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 12:27:41 PM »
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  • It would be helpful to know if the priest that told you this is a reliable source of information, or whether this is hearsay.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 12:37:02 PM »
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    IF this forum were angelqueen, all the members of this thread would be banned for evening mentioning malachi martin. Servitums because enraged when like a psychopath when his name is brought up. Of course, serv also hates Fatima, so psychosis is to be expected from him.


    Why does he hate Fatima?



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    « Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 02:09:06 PM »
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  • Sedetrad said:
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    IF this forum were angelqueen, all the members of this thread would be banned for evening mentioning malachi martin. Servitums because enraged when like a psychopath when his name is brought up


    So true, so true!   :roll-laugh1:
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    « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 02:17:50 PM »
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  • Has anyone on the board noticed how it is the women, parentsfortruth and Elizabeth, who defend Malachi Martin?  This gives me the creeps big-time since Martin was with almost absolute certainty a warlock.  This all reminds me of Eve and the serpent, of hucksters and charlatans like Rasputin and Cagliostro with mesmeric powers over the ladies.  

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    He also saw the notes for the book he had been working on before he died. He was going to 'tell all.' The book was going to be called, "Primacy: How the Institutionalized Roman Catholic Church became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr."


    You mean fifty years after the fact he was going to say what should have been obvious to everyone?  What a brave man.

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    Whenever someone has something that the enemies of the Church do not want people to know, they try to destroy that person, as they did with Cardinal Martin. They claimed he was a 'marrano' and an 'adulterer' and all kinds of slanderous venom against that person.


    It's not "slander" to say he was a Marrano.  There are rumors he's a Jєω, he worked with the marrano Augustin Bea, and he was the periti who helped Bea enact the law at Vatican II that "absolved" Jєωs of their blood guilt.  Oh, and he never, ever publicly repented of this nor did he even admit he did it.  He actually said that they went too far for him at Vatican II but he was part of what he said they went too far on.  On top of this, he wrote a book under a pseudonym that positively reinforces and celebrates the new openness towards the Jєωs.  

    Now you have been told.  Anyone who, knowing this, doesn't admit that he covered up his past has become a liar like he was.  What he did at Vatican II was a massive scandal that can only be corrected by public repentance.  Martin was the exact opposite of repentant, dressing in natty clothes, living some kind of jet-set life, hanging out with wealthy Jєωιѕн publishers.    

    It wasn't until the 90's that Martin suggested Satanism in the Vatican by writing Windswept House, a book that manages to be trashy and sensationalistic yet mind-numbingly dull at the same time,  by showing a fictional black mass taking place in St. Paul's Cathedral.  If saying that there is Satanism in the Vatican means he was trying to expose the truth, then I guess we have to say the same for Paul VI, since he talked about the "smoke of Satan entering the Vatican."  Except Paul VI did this much, much earlier, so I guess he was actually more "prophetic" than Malachi Martin.

    What Martin did was keep people in VII by admitting that something was wrong, that the upper hierarchy was corrupted, but he almost never discussed heresies, errors of the faith, or any of the real problems.  This is crucial to the plans of the devil because it keeps people in the mindset that the problem is that some of the clergy are occult heretics when the real problem is that they are public apostates.  Malachi Martin actually helped people to deny what they saw with their own eyes and to retreat into fantasies!  Like a true magician, he weaved a detailed, sensationalistic Hollywood version of events that literally gave people a false impression of reality.  Instead of "the Jєωs and Freemasons have their man on the Throne of Peter" he peddled a completely alternate reality that "The Pope is backed into a corner trying to do his best but is surrounded by colorful Satanists."  

    It is exactly like Hollywood where films like The Exorcist, showing priests exorcizing demons, subliminally make people think the Church is still functioning normally.  No demon can cast out a demon, and no one involved with the Vatican II sect has any power over demons.  Of course, Malachi trafficked in that deception too, claiming to be an exorcist.  Someone who is possessed would probably become perfectly possessed after a visit from Malachi.  By the way, the best thing he ever did was come up with the term "perfect possession," which describes what he was.  

    An "insider" like he claimed to be, parentsfortruth, would know right away that JPII was Satan's man in Amsterdam.  To know that something is wrong in the Vatican you do not need to hear about black Masses, you only have to read the docuмents of the VII Council.  But Martin covered up for the "Popes" his entire life.  He consistently and in a calculated manner posited that both Paul VI and JPII were somehow exempt from the skulduggery in the Vatican, perpetuating the "prisoner in the Vatican myth" that doesn't even work for Pius XII, let alone JPII.  

    Of course, Martin was only a clean-up agent for the devil -- no one will be able to blame him on the Day of Judgment, since they are the ones who have remained willfully blind.  He just gave his audience what they already wanted, a little conspiracy-theory goulash to explain the obvious problems in the "Church," but not so much that their lives might be disrupted.  He was the perfect spiritual hitman for an age that has lost the faith, for minds turned into mush by Hollywood and with no concept of doctrine.  He gave people sensationalism and they ate it up because they cannot bear healthy truth.

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    As for me, I will be asking Cardinal Martin to recommend me to Our Lord, and I hope you might do the same.


    Haven't you heard?  It's no honor to be called a Cardinal these days.  I would trust a cut-throat mobster before I'd trust one of these "Cardinals."
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 02:34:32 PM »
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  • Just my thoughts, but we tend to grab onto people too quicly without getting all of the facts.   The pro-lifers are the same way - remember Sarah Palin?

    Malachi Martin is just another source of division and confusion for us.  And that's not a good sign.

    This news about his being a secret bishop and now cardinal isn't really news.  There have been rumours of it since his death - along with his becoming a sedevacantist shortly before his demise.  Until someone can provide absolute proof of either - I am suspect of these things.

    I don't know about the rest of you here, but I am tired of being played the fool.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 09:40:50 PM »
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  • Raoul, with all due respect I have never heard Fr Martin say stay in the Vatican II church.  In the talk I own, "The deserted Vineyard", he tells people to attend the traditional Mass with properly ordained priests.  He encourages traditional devotions and so on.  He says the No Mass can be valid if said in Latin, with a properly ordained priest with the correct intention, but that almost all NO masses are invalid.  He puzzled over the actions of JPII, but he said he was not qualified to judge him.

    Publicly blasting Fr Martin and saying he was a warlock and a Jєω is a mortal sin.  You are out of line.
     Yes, I am a man who is a big fan of Fr Martin.
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    « Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 08:01:00 AM »
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  • PTF, what you say is true. My priest also knew Bp. Martin and finds humor in the people who did not personally know him coming up with all of these claims.
    With all due respect Raoul, My priest and I am certain PTF's priest are male, not female so it is not a bunch of females following Eve and the serpent.  What on earth has happened to you?

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    « Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 08:24:25 AM »
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    Raoul, with all due respect I have never heard Fr Martin say stay in the Vatican II church.  In the talk I own, "The deserted Vineyard", he tells people to attend the traditional Mass with properly ordained priests.  He encourages traditional devotions and so on.  He says the No Mass can be valid if said in Latin, with a properly ordained priest with the correct intention, but that almost all NO masses are invalid.  He puzzled over the actions of JPII, but he said he was not qualified to judge him.

    Publicly blasting Fr Martin and saying he was a warlock and a Jєω is a mortal sin.  You are out of line.
     Yes, I am a man who is a big fan of Fr Martin.


    Actually he said that its okay for people to go to SSPV and CMRI Masses in an interview with I listened too.

    He believed that the SVs were more Catholic than the Novus Ordo which would make him to the "right" of the SSPX.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 10:25:54 AM »
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  • Raoul, what you say makes me recall what Our Lord said when he cast out demons. You are the one who says, "He casts out demons by Beelzebub." I'm sure you can find what Our Lord said right back to those Pharisees.

    Cardinal Martin was an exorcist, and a very good one.

    The priest I spoke with also told me the name of one of the priests at the black mass. At the time, he was called "Father Bernadine." I'm sure you can figure out who it was.

    Incidentally, the priest in Madison that was brutally murdered, named Father Kunz, was going to unmask "Cardinal Bernadine" and it seems that was who was responsible for his death. He, too, was an exorcist, and very good friends with Cardinal Martin.

    As much as you want to libel him here, the fact is, his books were responsible for many people returning to the True Church. My mother was one of them. Thanks be to God.

    Think about what you're saying... Raoul. Are you saying these things for the love of God, or for your own grandiose intentions?

    The reason I say what I say, is because that Cardinal Martin did much for the Church, despite the precarious position he was in. God picked the right man to do the work that Cardinal Martin did, and it is only to edify those that wish to know more about the man, not to stomp on his grave.

    If you're that concerned about him, perhaps a prayer for him would be in order.
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    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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