Author Topic: It is beginning in Hungary... (Read 2496 times)

Pelly · « **on:** January 13, 2013, 10:23:45 AM »

...of liturgical abuse.
There was a broadcast of NO this Sunday, and I saw that the "priest" wore a special chasuble for the Year of Faith, with a reddish color instead of green, the actual liturgical color.
Does this mean that the gravest forms of liturgical abuse are entering into Hungary? Or these errors have entered the country earlier? (These type of abuse consist of Kool-Aid, tortilla, "priestesses", etc)

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2013, 11:50:36 AM »

Hungary? Not Hungary!! I've become a fan of that country!

drivocek · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2013, 12:00:23 PM »

It is obvious that liturgical abuse has already struck Hungary. Do not attend a Novus Ordo mass. Find a Traditional priest (in good standing)!

Pelly · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:17:59 PM »

I've heard about other liturgical abuses, like performing "Mass" in a costume, or holding it drunk.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2013, 05:10:27 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

...of liturgical abuse.
There was a broadcast of NO this Sunday, and I saw that the "priest" wore a special chasuble for the Year of Faith, with a reddish color instead of green, the actual liturgical color.
Does this mean that the gravest forms of liturgical abuse are entering into Hungary? Or these errors have entered the country earlier? (These type of abuse consist of Kool-Aid, tortilla, "priestesses", etc)

Are you located in Hungary?

Stubborn · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2013, 05:22:53 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

I've heard about other liturgical abuses, like performing "Mass" in a costume, or holding it drunk.

Actually, the new "mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass.

Best to completely avoid the NO at all times and assist only at the TLM - I'm of the opinion that, that is probably about the only way to see that the new "mass" itself IS the abuse of the True Mass.

Pelly · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2013, 05:01:16 AM »

Today, at a NO "Mass", the "priest" wore a chasuble (or alb?) with a palm on it (which wouldn't be a problem, since palms are the symbols of martyrdom), but this palm was more of exotic than sacred (I've seen a toucan on it). Plus, I think that they didn't observe liturgical colours. But there was a thing that is unusual to NO: the Mary and the St. Michael prayer.

Sigismund · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2013, 01:12:53 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

...of liturgical abuse.
There was a broadcast of NO this Sunday, and I saw that the "priest" wore a special chasuble for the Year of Faith, with a reddish color instead of green, the actual liturgical color.
Does this mean that the gravest forms of liturgical abuse are entering into Hungary? Or these errors have entered the country earlier? (These type of abuse consist of Kool-Aid, tortilla, "priestesses", etc)

A chasuble of the worng color is an abuse, but hardly the gravest form of liturgical abuse.

Perhaps there was a feast celebrated locally for which red was the proper color. Or perhaps for some odd reason there was no green chasuble available. I remember as a boy serving a weekday Mass on a martyr's feast day. For some reason, there was no red chasuble in the sacristy. The priest was annoyed, but he wore a white chasuble and went on.

Pelly · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2013, 11:15:44 AM »

@Sigismund It was a live broadcast. And I think that a toucan is not for the Church.
Also, I've heard of another weird liturgical abuse from my classmate that the celebrant said: "And now drink the Blood of God".
Plus, I was on a pilgrimage when I got a Confession Manual, which forbade joining into societies that are contrary to the Church, and it mentioned Wizards (The Ancient Hungarian Wizard School, a syncretic shaman cult), then, when I discovered the site, I've seen a little brook accompanied by a hut...
and I saw the logo of the cult encarved in a woodden plate on the ground.

Sigismund · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2013, 08:47:32 PM »

Okay, I can see no reason for a toucan on a chasuble.

Pelly · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2013, 01:52:37 PM »

At the NO school, we attended class Masses once a month. The celebrant usually omitted the Creed.

Pelly · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:52:48 AM »

Today, I looked at the bulletin of a NO Church and I saw that they're going to hold a Taizé meeting soon. I think that Tradition is going to disappear in my town.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2013, 02:23:06 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

Today, I looked at the bulletin of a NO Church and I saw that they're going to hold a Taizé meeting soon. I think that Tradition is going to disappear in my town.

Hasn't it already, if your only 'Catholic' experiences are at the NO (in other words, not a Catholic experience at all)?

Are there not Eastern rites in Hungary? Intuitively I would think that a viable and plenteous option, though it might not be so.

Pelly · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2013, 03:00:48 PM »

There are Eastern Rites there, but somebody cautioned about them, since some may reflect NO. But thanks to school and bad weather (there was snow and cold in March!), I couldn't go to Mass! And not to mention that there is no Mass at Palm Sunday in the nearest Church, only far, far away and in Slovakia.
I could have wings or teleport... but I can't! I'm thinking about ordering a priest, if it doesn't cost money.