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Offline Jr1991

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Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
« on: August 15, 2022, 06:42:01 PM »
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    • I ask because in reading through several bulletins from the SSPX, they do not mention today as being a Holy Day of Obligation. I then see that the Thuc chapel, which is currently the only Traditional Mass center in my area, says it is. Then I check the Novus Ordo calendar, and they say it is not. The indult/Novus Ordo says it is not. Is the SSPX simply following the Novus Ordo calendar?
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #1 on: August 15, 2022, 06:47:40 PM »
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    • The Australasian Catholic Calendar produced by Fr Eldracher says Yes.
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #2 on: August 15, 2022, 06:52:05 PM »
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    • Thank you for the response. The crisis in the Church is so deep that even Trads can't figure out what is a Holy day Of Obligation. I just checked the Novus Ordo Bishop's website, and they say no.
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2022, 06:53:18 PM »
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    • I'm guessing that is what the SSPX is following. The NO calendar that is. 
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2022, 09:28:20 PM »
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    • The SSPX chapel in my area had today as a Holy Day. 
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2022, 09:30:58 PM »
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    • The sspx in my area announced masses for today, but not that it was a holy day of obligation.  Actually, the priest talked about the divine mercy chaplet.  Ugh. 
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2022, 09:59:32 PM »
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    • They are just being consistent with their belief that the V2 papal claimants are legitimate popes.  I don't really fault them because it's only consistent.  For many years, the SSPX used to tell people that these were Holy Days of Obligation, despite acknowledging the authorities that said it wasn't any longer.
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2022, 10:01:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Chimp on August 15, 2022, 09:28:20 PM
    The SSPX chapel in my area had today as a Holy Day.
    Yes, Father said it was for us as well. Although I couldn't go since I've been sick all weekend :'(
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2022, 11:31:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on August 15, 2022, 10:01:57 PM
    Yes, Father said it was for us as well. Although I couldn't go since I've been sick all weekend :'(

    It's hard to say, since I believe that it's up to the bishop of each diocese?  Not sure or if this priest is "old school"?
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #9 on: August 16, 2022, 12:30:52 AM »
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    • US CATHOLIC HOLY DAYS OF OBLIGATION FOR 2022
    This leaves us with five holy days of obligation outside of Sundays. The following are holy days of obligation in the U.S. for 2022:
    • Solemnity of Mary, January 1*
    • Ascension of Jesus, May 26 — Celebrated on the sixth Thursday after Easter Sunday*
    • Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, August 15*
    • Solemnity of All Saints, November 1
    • Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, December 8
    *An individual bishop may transfer a holy day to a Sunday. This is the case in most US dioceses with the Ascension of Jesus, which is transferred to the Seventh Sunday of Easter. Since the Solemnity of Mary falls on a Saturday and the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary falls on a Monday this year, they may also be transferred to the closest Sunday. Check with your local diocese.
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #10 on: August 16, 2022, 12:44:21 AM »
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    • The Feast of the Assumption was a Holy Day of Obligation in our area.  Great day for our area!  Many travelled to the city at night too!  God bless them!  

    The SSPX stated it was a Holy Day of Obligation and offered two masses morning low Mass and night high Mass out of state in the city.

    The Indult also stated it was Holy Day of obligation and had a huge high Mass at night out of state  in the city.

    The Independent chapel had a morning low Mass for the Feast of the Assumption.  I went to confession and Mass. Yay!

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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2022, 01:04:08 AM »
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    • The holy days of obligation for Latin Church Catholics are indicated in canon 1246 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law

    Can. 1246. §1. Sunday, on which by apostolic tradition the paschal mystery is celebrated, must be observed in the universal Church as the primordial holy day of obligation. The following days must also be observed: the Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension, the Body and Blood of Christ, Holy Mary the Mother of God, her Immaculate Conception, her Assumption, Saint Joseph, Saint Peter and Saint Paul the Apostles, and All Saints. §2. With the prior approval of the Apostolic See, however, the conference of bishops can suppress some of the holy days of obligation or transfer them to a Sunday.

    Placed in the order of the liturgical calendar, the ten days (apart from Sundays) that this canon mentions are:

    8 December: Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    25 December: Solemnity of the Nativity of the Lord (Christmas)
    1 January: Solemnity of Mary, the Holy Mother of God
    6 January: Solemnity of the Epiphany of the Lord
    19 March: Solemnity of Saint Joseph, Spouse of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    Thursday of the sixth week of Eastertide: Solemnity of the Ascension of the Lord
    Thursday after Trinity Sunday: Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ (Feast of Corpus Christi)
    29 June: Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul, Apostles
    15 August: Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    1 November: Solemnity of All Saints

    The number of holy days of obligation was once much greater. With the motu proprio of 2 July 1911, Supremi disciplinae, Pope Pius X reduced the number of such non-Sunday holy days from 36 to 8: the above 10 dates (1 January was then the Feast of the Circuмcision of Christ) minus the feasts the Body and Blood of Christ, and Saint Joseph. The present list was established in canon 1247 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law, now canon 1246 of the current Code of Canon Law.

    Even before the time of Pius X, the bishops in many countries had obtained the Holy See's approval to diminish the number of non-Sunday holy days of obligation, making it less than 36. Today too, episcopal conferences have availed themselves of the authority granted them to reduce the number below the ten mentioned above.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_day_of_obligation#:~:text=The%20following%20days%20must%20also,%C2%A72.
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #12 on: August 16, 2022, 07:57:54 AM »
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    • The SSPX priest at my chapel said it was a Holy Day of Obligation. Novus Ordo and FSSP in my area say it is not. 
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #13 on: August 16, 2022, 08:09:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: trento on August 16, 2022, 01:04:08 AM
    The holy days of obligation for Latin Church Catholics are indicated in canon 1246 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law

    Can. 1246. §1. Sunday, on which by apostolic tradition the paschal mystery is celebrated, must be observed in the universal Church as the primordial holy day of obligation. The following days must also be observed: the Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension, the Body and Blood of Christ, Holy Mary the Mother of God, her Immaculate Conception, her Assumption, Saint Joseph, Saint Peter and Saint Paul the Apostles, and All Saints. §2. With the prior approval of the Apostolic See, however, the conference of bishops can suppress some of the holy days of obligation or transfer them to a Sunday.

    Placed in the order of the liturgical calendar, the ten days (apart from Sundays) that this canon mentions are:

    8 December: Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    25 December: Solemnity of the Nativity of the Lord (Christmas)
    1 January: Solemnity of Mary, the Holy Mother of God
    6 January: Solemnity of the Epiphany of the Lord
    19 March: Solemnity of Saint Joseph, Spouse of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    Thursday of the sixth week of Eastertide: Solemnity of the Ascension of the Lord
    Thursday after Trinity Sunday: Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ (Feast of Corpus Christi)
    29 June: Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul, Apostles
    15 August: Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    1 November: Solemnity of All Saints

    The number of holy days of obligation was once much greater. With the motu proprio of 2 July 1911, Supremi disciplinae, Pope Pius X reduced the number of such non-Sunday holy days from 36 to 8: the above 10 dates (1 January was then the Feast of the Circuмcision of Christ) minus the feasts the Body and Blood of Christ, and Saint Joseph. The present list was established in canon 1247 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law, now canon 1246 of the current Code of Canon Law.

    Even before the time of Pius X, the bishops in many countries had obtained the Holy See's approval to diminish the number of non-Sunday holy days of obligation, making it less than 36. Today too, episcopal conferences have availed themselves of the authority granted them to reduce the number below the ten mentioned above.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_day_of_obligation#:~:text=The%20following%20days%20must%20also,%C2%A72.
    Baltimore Catechism:

    Q. 1333. How many holydays of obligation are there in this country?

    A. In this country there are six holydays of obligation, namely:
       1. Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec. 8th);
       2. Christmas (Dec. 25th);
       3. Feast of the Circuмcision of Our Lord (Jan. 1st);
       4. Feast of the Ascension of Our Lord (forty days after Easter);
       5. Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin (Aug. 15th); and
       6. Feast of All Saints (Nov. 1st).
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    Re: Is today a Holy Day of Obligation in the Neo-SSPX Calendar?
    « Reply #14 on: August 16, 2022, 09:24:40 AM »
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    • The N.O. Bishop in my area says it is automatically moved to Sunday, so there was no mass yesterday.  I’m not surprised as I discovered the same thing way back in 1996 while vacationing close to where I now live.  I’ve no idea about SSPX or other Latin Mass because there is none anywhere close by.  Actually, there IS TLM, a little shy of three hour’s drive, but it’s in Canada and the unvaxxed are not welcome.  Besides that, I don’t possess other necessary papers like a passport or an enhanced driver’s license, so they still won’t let me in.  
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