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Offline josefamenendez

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Is this a big mitre, or what?
« on: April 28, 2022, 01:56:37 PM »
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    • I didn't alter the pic of Bishop (?) Pfeiffer at all- but man, that mitre is really big- right??!!
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    Offline Nadir

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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2022, 04:29:51 PM »
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    • It might cause a smaller man to topple! :laugh2:
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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #2 on: April 29, 2022, 04:49:13 AM »
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    • It’s very sad that there are Catholics who are still duped and take this “bishop” seriously. :facepalm:
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2022, 05:51:41 AM »
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    • Either that or it just looks big, as +?Pfeiffer is not a very tall man.  Perhaps he wears a large miter to persuade people that he's a valid bishop.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #4 on: April 30, 2022, 04:53:20 PM »
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    • It really is that big....:facepalm:
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #5 on: April 30, 2022, 08:09:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on April 30, 2022, 04:53:20 PM
    It really is that big....:facepalm:

    It's partly optical illusion, since +?Pfeiffer is not a particularly tall man.  But, even despite that, yes, that is a very large mitre.

    Hey, the bigger the mitre, the more convincing it might be for some that he's actually a valid bishop.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #6 on: May 01, 2022, 09:18:00 AM »
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    • It's huge....


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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2022, 06:03:02 PM »
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    • That's a hat for Texas. Where is he from?
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #8 on: May 02, 2022, 02:34:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on May 01, 2022, 06:03:02 PM
    That's a hat for Texas. Where is he from?
    KY
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #9 on: May 02, 2022, 06:58:29 AM »
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    • Am I the only one who has an issue with Trad bishops using croziers (as in the video still in the OP)?

    Croziers signify jurisdiction and even bishops with ordinary jurisdiction were technically only allowed to use it in their OWN diocese.

    Arguably a mitre also symbolizes authority and jurisdiction.

    If I were a trad bishop, I would use neither one of them.  Why do Trad bishops carry croziers?  Has anyone every explained why this is OK?  I've seen pretty much every Trad bishop wielding a crozier.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #10 on: May 02, 2022, 07:06:29 AM »
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    Crosier – The crosier, also known as the pastoral staff, is conferred on a bishop at his consecration. It is a symbol of his authority and jurisdiction. The origin of the pastoral staff is associated with the shepherd’s crook. It is employed by a bishop whenever he performs solemn liturgical functions, by right in his own diocese.

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    Mitre – The mitre is worn by a bishop as a mark of his office and a symbol of his authority. The mitre is presented to the bishop during the Rite of Ordination of a Bishop. The proper color of a mitre is always white. The mitre is distinguished from other episcopal vestments in that it is always laid aside when the bishop prays at Mass.

    I've read elsewhere that bishops may wear mitres simply by virtue of their Orders, but I've never seen anything where a Crozier does not symbolize authority and jurisdiction.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #11 on: May 02, 2022, 10:54:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on May 01, 2022, 06:03:02 PM
    That's a hat for Texas. Where is he from?
    Hahahaha- good one.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #12 on: May 02, 2022, 11:06:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on May 01, 2022, 06:03:02 PM
    That's a hat for Texas. Where is he from?
    Definitely a ten gallon.
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #13 on: May 04, 2022, 01:45:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 02, 2022, 06:58:29 AM
    Am I the only one who has an issue with Trad bishops using croziers (as in the video still in the OP)?

    Croziers signify jurisdiction and even bishops with ordinary jurisdiction were technically only allowed to use it in their OWN diocese.

    Arguably a mitre also symbolizes authority and jurisdiction.

    If I were a trad bishop, I would use neither one of them.  Why do Trad bishops carry croziers?  Has anyone every explained why this is OK?  I've seen pretty much every Trad bishop wielding a crozier.

    I have an issue with the sspx calling their priests "pastors".  Right in the bulletins...

    "Pastor" implies jurisdictional authority, which they don't have.

    I also have a problem with the SSPX putting photos of the diocesan bishop in their chapels.  
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    Re: Is this a big mitre, or what?
    « Reply #14 on: May 04, 2022, 06:04:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on May 02, 2022, 11:06:30 AM
    Definitely a ten gallon.

    He’s easily pushing 20 with this one.
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