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Offline soulguard

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is there some secret war going on?
« on: November 07, 2013, 07:51:12 AM »
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  • There was a vortex episode some time ago about Biship Schneider from Khazakstan, and there was also an interview with him. In the interview the Bishop who says the TLM said that there needs to be a "syllabus of errors" drawn up for Vatican 2.

    This bishop is probably fighting Vatican 2 from the inside. He also travelled to Ireland and was at the Indult church I used to go to. That church was very traditional, and I presume that the Indult priests there are also fighting from the inside since their conversation implied some desire to return the conciliar church to tradition.

    Then again they were forced to say the novus ordo mass on sundays.
    I got the impression that the novus ordo mass and the changes in the church really bothered them, and I think there is some sort of war going on inside the conciliar church for its soul.

    But there is not much heard of tradition in the conciliar church, so what is going on? Are they fighting from the inside? And if they are what does the future hold for them?


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    is there some secret war going on?
    « Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 01:04:17 PM »
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  • Saying there is a secret war between this Biship Schneider from Khazakstan and some indult mass priests, versus the Vatican II establishment, is akin to saying there is a secret war between a dust mite and an elephant.

    P.S.- if the Indult mass priests were all allowed to do whatever mass they like, there would be no further fight from them, for that is all they perceive as THE problem.


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    is there some secret war going on?
    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 06:52:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: bowler
    Saying there is a secret war between this Biship Schneider from Khazakstan and some indult mass priests, versus the Vatican II establishment, is akin to saying there is a secret war between a dust mite and an elephant.

    P.S.- if the Indult mass priests were all allowed to do whatever mass they like, there would be no further fight from them, for that is all they perceive as THE problem.


    Could not have put it better, well done. Completely agree, way too many focus on the liturgy as the sole source of the problem. When it is just a symptom of the greater problem, a counterfeit Church. The Church cannot give false or impious worship, period.

    Just listen as this "Cardinal" Burke who is the most Catholic of all those who were present during the election of "Francis" a.k.a. Bergoglio, talks about communion of the hand as legitimate. To them its just a matter of preference, you like bananas. I like strawberries, it is really a libertarian religion... This is from someone that has read way too much into anarchy/libertarianism in its economic and political practice. You know when you see a libertarian, and this is a just another free market perspective of religion. Let's all have a big hug and get along with each other  :alcohol:.
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