Author Topic: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all? (Read 30335 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #130 on:** June 04, 2021, 09:33:24 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 04, 2021, 09:20:34 AM

No:
Because there is no institutionally monolithic Resistance, there is no official Resistance position on anything.

As far as I can tell "The Resistance" is more of an idea than any kind of concrete organization. If anyone might "morally" speak for the Resistance, it would be Bishop Williamson. I believe there was some scandal created when Bishop Williamson did confirmations for some Feeneyite group. Bishop Williamson, if I recall, also did ordinations for the Traditionalist Ukrainian Catholics.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #131 on:** June 04, 2021, 09:46:25 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 04, 2021, 09:33:24 AM

As far as I can tell "The Resistance" is more of an idea than any kind of concrete organization.

Initially (ie., prior to +Williamson’s entrance into the Resistance), it was not so. The plan was to prepare for an “SSPX 2B” to replace the old one if it sold out. But the bishop’s idea of “independent pockets” of Resistance made this situation inevitable.

Yeti · « **Reply #132 on:** June 04, 2021, 10:08:12 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 04, 2021, 09:20:34 AM

No:
Because there is no institutionally monolithic Resistance, there is no official Resistance position on anything.

Thanks. I figured you would be the most likely person to know.
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But is there a de facto position? I.e. do most Resistance priests go one way or the other?

Matthew · « **Reply #133 on:** June 04, 2021, 10:48:44 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on June 03, 2021, 02:38:56 PM

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Quick question. Does the Resistance have an official position -- either explicitly stated or at least existing de facto -- on the new rites of ordination and consecration? Do they require that any priest who works for them be ordained in the old rite, and come from an unbroken line of bishops ordained and consecrate in the old rite?
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And do they tell the faithful to only receive the sacraments from such priests?

Ok, since my fellow ex-seminarians utterly failed to answer this question for you, I will:

DE FACTO the Resistance does have a position on this. Priests from the Novus Ordo are to be conditionally re-ordained. And the Resistance only makes use of known good or "certainly valid" bishops -- such as +Lefebvre-line.

All priests working in the Resistance are either conditionally ordained by a +Lefebvre line bishop, or they were already ordained by one in the SSPX.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. Classic SSPX position, once again.

Yeti · « **Reply #134 on:** June 04, 2021, 10:53:40 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on June 04, 2021, 10:48:44 AM

Ok, since my fellow ex-seminarians utterly failed to answer this question for you, I will:

DE FACTO the Resistance does have a position on this. Priests from the Novus Ordo are to be conditionally re-ordained. And the Resistance only makes use of known good or "certainly valid" bishops -- such as +Lefebvre-line.

All priests working in the Resistance are either conditionally ordained by a +Lefebvre line bishop, or they were already ordained by one in the SSPX.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. Classic SSPX position, once again.

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Thank you. Validity of sacraments is extremely important. And changes made to the form of Holy Orders by modernists should not be used by anybody. That's just not something you should take a chance on.

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Author Topic: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all? (Read 30335 times)

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