Author Topic: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all? (Read 30348 times)

Incredulous · « **Reply #115 on:** February 04, 2021, 08:43:49 AM »

Quick reply:

1. Quoting Bp Tissier and Father Wathen, the new mass is a “bastard, sacrilege”.

2. Bp. Williamson contradicted himself on the new mass and is just plain wrong to say partial graces are coming from it.

3. The “ring” is the Tridentine Mass, codified by St. Pope Pius V to insure our Catholic unity for the highest form of Worship taught by the Our Lord, Jesus Christ

Matthew · « **Reply #116 on:** February 04, 2021, 09:16:41 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous on February 04, 2021, 08:43:49 AM

Quick reply:

3. The “ring” is the Tridentine Mass, codified by St. Pope Pius V to insure our Catholic unity for the highest form of Worship taught by the Our Lord, Jesus Christ

Even the Tridentine Mass itself is the source of some of the DEEPEST divisions among Traditional Catholics. Should the Mass be offered una cuм the current Pontiff? Which Missale should be used? 1962, 1955, or earlier? and if we're in Holy Week, which version of Holy Week should be used? How many hours should we fast before Communion? Which version of the Good Friday prayers should be used? There are several. And heaven help us -- should the Faithful give any responses during the Mass (a la the Dialogue Mass)

These are divisions specifically among Traditional Catholics -- 100% of whom claim allegiance and devotion to the Tridentine Mass.

So no, the Tridentine Mass is most certainly not the Ring of my analogy. Or there would be zero division among Traditional Catholics today! Is that truly what you observe?

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #117 on:** February 04, 2021, 09:33:16 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on February 04, 2021, 09:16:41 AM

Even the Tridentine Mass itself is the source of some of the DEEPEST divisions among Traditional Catholics. Should the Mass be offered una cuм the current Pontiff? Which Missale should be used? 1962, 1955, or earlier? and if we're in Holy Week, which version of Holy Week should be used? How many hours should we fast before Communion? Which version of the Good Friday prayers should be used? There are several. And heaven help us -- should the Faithful give any responses during the Mass (a la the Dialogue Mass)

These are divisions specifically among Traditional Catholics -- 100% of whom claim allegiance and devotion to the Tridentine Mass.

So no, the Tridentine Mass is most certainly not the Ring of my analogy. Or there would be zero division among Traditional Catholics today! Is that truly what you observe?

Exactly. The "One Ring" simply isn't known right now (if it even exists at this time).

Minnesota · « **Reply #118 on:** February 04, 2021, 10:24:05 AM »

I have a feeling that more than a few FSSP priests share the Society's view of the New Mass... Being that they rely on a diocese for bishops and more, they probably can't say it publicly.

Incredulous · « **Reply #119 on:** February 04, 2021, 10:25:47 AM »

Quote from: Papa Pius V on February 04, 2021, 09:33:16 AM

Exactly. The "One Ring" simply isn't known right now (if it even exists at this time).

The “divisions” in the codified Holy Sacrifice were introduced and propagated by the enemies of the Church. They are extraneous distractions.

Transubstantiation of the Holy Sacrifice has abrogated judaism.
It is our unifying ring.

If you don’t believe in it, you’re clearly outside looking in.

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