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Author Topic: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?  (Read 25201 times)

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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2022, 11:15:50 AM »
Quote from: gladius_veritatis on May 14, 2022, 11:08:51 PM
It rhymes with hero...as in ZERO.  He's talking nonsense.
"As a whiny, lazy punk who asks for sources he could get himself, that you would offer such groundless, trash input on such a serious matter is most disconcerting, although not remotely surprising"

"Get off your lazy ass and just search for it."
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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2022, 11:16:25 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on May 14, 2022, 11:06:28 PM
No, it wouldn't. What is your proof for this bizarre claim? What Catholic theologians can you cite in favor of this statement?
Talk to a traditional Catholic priest you trust.  They will tell you and show you.
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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2022, 11:17:37 AM »
Quote from: gladius_veritatis on May 14, 2022, 11:17:28 PM
A man could be banging every woman within 100 miles -- before, during and after the nuptials -- and it would not necessarily change anything, whether the woman knew of it or not.  You are an ignorant little punk who should refrain from commenting further about these matters.
Wrong. 
"Get off your lazy ass and just search for it."
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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2022, 11:24:15 AM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on May 15, 2022, 05:20:24 AM
If the spouse is lying and unfaithful at the time of the ceremony and the other spouse has no knowledge of it, hasn't the marriage contract  been voided because of the deceit at the time of the matrimonial ceremony? 
Correct
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2022, 02:35:20 PM »
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Any serious lie before marriage invalidates the traditional Catholic vow.
Matrimony, just like all other sacraments, have rules in canon law.  Your above "definition" is WAY too vague and would never be accurate, because canon law requires precise definitions and meaning.  There's nothing at all in the orthodox/traditional 1917 code which supports your claim.


A "serious lie"?  Define "serious" and define "lie"...from canon law, please.

:jester:  I can imagine a couple 7 years into their marriage, with 2-3 children, who hate each other.  The husband complains that he doesn't like what's for dinner and wife says "Oh, but this is my mother's meatloaf recipe and when we were dating, you said you LOVED it.  This is a "serious lie" and i'm getting an annulment."  Don't think stuff like this hasn't happened.  When V2 opened the door to "catholic divorce" by allowing annulments for "serious lies" then the horse is out of the barn, and chaos is the order of the deal. P
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