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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2022, 12:58:50 PM »

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Being unfaithful in marriage is grounds, if the party was unfaithful before marriage and knew he/she would be unfaithful after.  

Same goes for abuse.  If a person had a bad temper and abused other women before marriage and didn't tell either the new wife or the priest before marriage, invalidates the marriage.

Not telling the spouse, before marriage, that they didn't want or couldn't have children is another valid reason.

Basicably, any serious lie before marriage invalidates the vow.
The not wanting children *might* be invalidating.  But hard to prove.  That’s why the Church requires marriage classes.  If you go through that process, that’s proof you agree with (and we’re told) the marriage requirements. 


All the other arguments you mention (cheating/abuse) do not invalidate a marriage.  They would be grounds for separation/civil divorce, but not invalidating.  
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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2022, 01:09:40 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 14, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
The not wanting children *might* be invalidating.  But hard to prove.  That’s why the Church requires marriage classes.  If you go through that process, that’s proof you agree with (and we’re told) the marriage requirements.


All the other arguments you mention (cheating/abuse) do not invalidate a marriage.  They would be grounds for separation/civil divorce, but not invalidating. 

Any serious lie before marriage invalidates the traditional Catholic vow.  Whether or not the reason qualifies as "serious" should be discussed with a good traditional priest.
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2022, 01:31:06 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 14, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
The not wanting children *might* be invalidating.  But hard to prove.  That’s why the Church requires marriage classes.  If you go through that process, that’s proof you agree with (and we’re told) the marriage requirements.


All the other arguments you mention (cheating/abuse) do not invalidate a marriage.  They would be grounds for separation/civil divorce, but not invalidating. 

Told, yes, agree with, not necessarily.  A malevolent prospective spouse could just sit there and be silent, keeping their intentions to themselves.
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Offline TKGS

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2022, 01:32:19 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on May 14, 2022, 01:09:40 PM
Any serious lie before marriage invalidates the traditional Catholic vow.  Whether or not the reason qualifies as "serious" should be discussed with a good traditional priest.
Irregardless of the reason one may think he would qualify for an annulment, the only place to start is to speak with a real priest.
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Offline TKGS

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2022, 01:33:31 PM »
Quote from: SimpleMan on May 14, 2022, 01:31:06 PM
Told, yes, agree with, not necessarily.  A malevolent prospective spouse could just sit there and be silent, keeping their intentions to themselves.
As with all sacraments, matrimony is an outward sign.  Keeping intentions entirely secret would not invalidate the sacrament.
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