Author Topic: Is there a Chance a True Catholic Pope is Waiting in the underground? (Read 1421 times)

Truth is Eternal · « **on:** April 24, 2014, 11:29:38 AM »

I am not saying I believe any of this. I am just wondering if it is possible.

Could it be possible, with Vatican 2 being a counterfeit council trying to appear to be Catholic and speak for the Catholic Church, Vatican 2 has no power whatsoever to declare anything to be infallible and we have a true pope in the underground waiting to come to the forefront to restore the Catholic Church to its former glory?

What do you think will happen to the Catholic Church?

Luker · « **Reply #1 on:** April 24, 2014, 06:32:26 PM »

How could we possibly know he is the true pope if he has been underground for decades??

Lets just say a man pops out of the woodwork suddenly with some regal papal vestments and a used tiara (sold to him by Paul VI) surrounded by a handful of Bishops and calls a press conference. Let us go so far to say that he and the bishops completely profess the true faith, mass, abjure all the modern errors. Thats great, high fives all around. But by what possible criteria could we possibly determine with any certainty that he is as he claims to be the Vicar of Christ?? He has pictures? Film footage of the coronation? the skeleton of the real Paul VI liberated from the basement of the Vatican?

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** April 24, 2014, 06:38:51 PM »

Well this is what the people who believe in the Siri thesis believe. They believe that Siri was elected the true pope in 1958, was blackmailed into not becoming the pope and then the cardinals elected John XXIII, but because Siri was forced to not be pope and did not accept this willingly, he remained true pope. The followers of this theory believe that Siri made cardinals and bishops to create a true hierarchy that is remaining underground to hide from the enemies of the Church and will one day come out of hiding and restore the Church to her glory. I believe roscoe and maybe others on this forum believes this. One of my friends from church believes in the Siri thesis.

songbird · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2014, 06:48:56 PM »

Hm? Seems to me there is a reading in the Bible about us being a light and why would one put a bushel basket over it? It would seem to me, that hiding is not in God's plans.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2014, 07:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Well this is what the people who believe in the Siri thesis believe. They believe that Siri was elected the true pope in 1958, was blackmailed into not becoming the pope and then the cardinals elected John XXIII, but because Siri was forced to not be pope and did not accept this willingly, he remained true pope. The followers of this theory believe that Siri made cardinals and bishops to create a true hierarchy that is remaining underground to hide from the enemies of the Church and will one day come out of hiding and restore the Church to her glory. I believe roscoe and maybe others on this forum believes this. One of my friends from church believes in the Siri thesis.

Not all the Siri Thesis advocates believe in the secret hierarchy thing. In fact, it really comes across as a scam and only serves to discredit the theory.

Is it possible that this happened? Sure, why not? But there's ZERO evidence for any of it.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2014, 07:29:29 PM »

Quote from: songbird

Hm? Seems to me there is a reading in the Bible about us being a light and why would one put a bushel basket over it? It would seem to me, that hiding is not in God's plans.

But the Traditional Catholic Church is already hidden; it's the most significant part of God's chastisement of the world that the truth be hidden for a while. Since people did not want the truth, God withdrew its light from the world.

Cantarella · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2014, 07:45:48 PM »

Is there a Chance a True Catholic Pope is Waiting in the underground?

I admit that this possibility makes more sense that a vacant Holy See for more than half a century.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2014, 08:10:14 PM »

Quote from: Catherine Emmerich

I see the Holy Father in great distress. He lives in another palace and receives only a few in his presence. If the wicked party know their own great strength, they would even now have made an attack. I fear the Holy Father will suffer many tribulations before his death, for I see the black counterfeit church gaining ground, I see its fatal influence on the public. The distress of the Holy Father and of the Church is really so great that one ought to pray to God day and night. I have been told to pray much for the Church and the Pope...The people must pray earnestly for the extirpation of the dark church

Quote from: Catherine Emmerich

I saw also the relationship between the two popes. . . I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city of Rome). The local clergy grew lukewarm, and I saw a great darkness...

Quote from: Melanie Calvat to Abbe Combe

The Church will be eclipsed. At first, we will not know which is the true pope. Then secondly, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass will cease to be offered in churches and houses; it will be such that, for a time, there will not be public services any more. But I see that the Holy Sacrifice has not really ceased: it will be offered in barns, in alcoves, in caves, and underground.

Notice the order. First, hidden pope (Siri). Second, New Mass (Paul VI).

Quote from: Nicolas of Fluh

The Church will be punished because the majority of her members, high and low, will become so perverted. The Church will sink deeper and deeper until she will at last seem to be extinguished, and the succession of Peter and the other Apostles to have expired. But, after this, she will be victoriously exalted in the sight of all doubters.

Luker · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2014, 08:25:59 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: Catherine Emmerich
I see the Holy Father in great distress. He lives in another palace and receives only a few in his presence. If the wicked party know their own great strength, they would even now have made an attack. I fear the Holy Father will suffer many tribulations before his death, for I see the black counterfeit church gaining ground, I see its fatal influence on the public. The distress of the Holy Father and of the Church is really so great that one ought to pray to God day and night. I have been told to pray much for the Church and the Pope...The people must pray earnestly for the extirpation of the dark church

Quote from: Catherine Emmerich
I saw also the relationship between the two popes. . . I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city of Rome). The local clergy grew lukewarm, and I saw a great darkness...

Quote from: Melanie Calvat to Abbe Combe
The Church will be eclipsed. At first, we will not know which is the true pope. Then secondly, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass will cease to be offered in churches and houses; it will be such that, for a time, there will not be public services any more. But I see that the Holy Sacrifice has not really ceased: it will be offered in barns, in alcoves, in caves, and underground.

Notice the order. First, hidden pope (Siri). Second, New Mass (Paul VI).

Quote from: Nicolas of Fluh
The Church will be punished because the majority of her members, high and low, will become so perverted. The Church will sink deeper and deeper until she will at last seem to be extinguished, and the succession of Peter and the other Apostles to have expired. But, after this, she will be victoriously exalted in the sight of all doubters.

Wait just a minute, I thought that the hidden pope was supposed to be the real Paul VI who was jailed in the Vatican basement and the bad imposter 'pope' did all the naughty things like sign the docuмents of Vatican II ?

Where is Andysloan with some private revelations from dubious exorcisms when you need him ??

Ladislaus · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2014, 08:36:49 PM »

LOL, the imposter Paul VI of both Bayside and the Holy Catholic Palmarian Church of Gregory XVII.

I've seen the pictures of the two Paul VIes and they look like the same man ... unlike the two different Sister Lucies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmarian_Catholic_Church

I actually think that the devil set up this Palmarian Church in order to discredit the idea of a pope in exile. There was clearly diabolical influence there; Gregory XVII reportedly levitated during Mass.

I find it very interesting that Dominguez took on the name Gregory XVII, the same name reportedly taken by Cardinal Siri.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #10 on:** April 24, 2014, 08:40:41 PM »

If there is, it's the Cardinal from Nigeria, Francis Arinze. He is the complete opposite of Bergoglio in every way, thank God.

Thorn · « **Reply #11 on:** April 24, 2014, 09:20:04 PM »

To answer the question: No. Anyone who thinks so is dreaming. Wishing it to be true.
What we will get is a chastisement. How it all unfolds & finally ends no one knows. Neither do we know when.