Author Topic: Is the Pope really traditional? (Read 1691 times)

alemany · « **on:** September 16, 2009, 02:04:59 PM »

Our present pope has been in the forefront of the church for many years. When he was a cardinal he had the reputation of being traditional. And in the college of cardinals when they went to elect the new pope, he was the most traditional candidate out there!There was another candidate from from Africa, he was looking really strong.

It's going to be very interesting to follow our new Pope, can anybody provide any formal, objective evidence that this pontificate is continuing down the same road that has put the church in crisis?

I would like to keep this thread as objective as possible, and not subjective. So what I'm looking for our examples of this pontificate. I've heard he's made good appointments, but I'm not informed of what they are? So for this thread up for information either for or against the direction of this pontificate.

I've search looking for the direction of this pontificate and everything leans towads tradition!

I look forward to seeing some feedback on other people's research look forward to seeing some facts that support their presupposition.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2009, 03:12:43 PM »

:smash-pc:

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2009, 06:09:42 PM »

Cardinal Ratzinger was not more traditional than Cardinal Biffi.

It is incorrect to say Cardinal Ratzinger has ever been traditional.

alemany · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:14:42 PM »

that's a strong statement.so he been around his retreat, that's it? what in his action,or formal,material evedence

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2009, 11:42:48 PM »

:smash-pc: :really-mad2:

CM · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:19:17 AM »

CM · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:38:02 PM »

Where did 'alemany' go?

Quote from: alemany

It's going to be very interesting to follow our new Pope, can anybody provide any formal, objective evidence that this pontificate is continuing down the same road that has put the church in crisis?

I wonder if this is not objective enough for him?

alemany · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2009, 09:41:30 PM »

I understand the mindset where you're coming from. I'm new to this forum and sounding it out . are you saying the chair empty? Or just antipope? after studying the conspiracy theories for so many years, I understand exactly what you're trying to get across.

Like I said I'm new to this site, truthfully new to computers. I wasn't expecting that type of answer, I've been away from the church for along time now, for about five years! And just started to make my way back very slowly.

So from the feedback I've received what one person smashing his computer and apparently very frustrated.
I didn't come here to get in fights, I'm just here trying to explore my faith. I'm not in the drippy liberal Catholic mode in any way whatsoever.

When I say it's been five years that means I have not even been to the confession because of a crisis of faith, so if it all true what are you going to do anyway

CM · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2009, 09:51:23 PM »

Alemany, nobody is angry at you. It's just that this is a very obvious thing to some of us, the heterodoxy of the 'pope', that is. Jesus Christ does not ask us to lie down with the wolves, but to beware them.

Benedict XVI is not the Vicar of Jesus Christ, but an enemy of Christ to be avoided and rejected utterly.

Here is what you need to do. I recommend you read it over very carefully, including the article in the link entitled "convert to it".

May God keep your soul unto life everlasting.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:48:12 PM »

I wonder where the T :incense:rue Catholic Church is?
It was some how lost beginning the first Sunday of Advent in
1964.

CM · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:56:44 PM »

The true Catholic Church is wherever the four marks are kept intact. That is NOT Vatican II or anything related to it.

The true Catholic Church is wherever the First Commandment is still obeyed as God intended it to be. That is NOT Vatican II or anything related to it.

The true Catholic Church is wherever there are no recessions from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative Magisterium. That is NOT Vatican II or anything related to it.

The Catholic Church is NOT wherever there is "visibility" because Budhism, Judaism and Islam are just as visible or more so than the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, SSPX, CMRI and other such false sects. That makes them no more or less valid.

The Arian 'church' was much more visible than the Cathoic Church, but was obviously not the true Catholic Church.

As for when the true Catholic Church was "lost": Never. That is impossible. It cannot ever be lost, only individual members who turn away from God can be lost.

Quote from: Christ

While I was with them, I kept them in thy name. Those whom thou gavest me have I kept; and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture may be fulfilled.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:53:11 AM »

Quote from: alemany

I've search looking for the direction of this pontificate and everything leans towards tradition!

Perhaps it is those "traditional" visits to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, etc.?