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Offline Stubborn

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Is the CMRI schismatic?
« Reply #105 on: December 03, 2014, 04:02:00 PM »
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If someone chooses the name "Unmerciful", there is nothing cruel in using Scripture to tell everyone that such a name is not a good thing to be named after, and should not be chosen. Stubborn even tried to defend his name by saying the Saints were stubborn!


I understand what you are trying to say, and we could debate a bit that 'stubborn' is a polysemous word (vs. unmerciful).  Also, the quality of 'stubborn' could just as easily be applied to most on Cathinfo. You are as unwavering as he in these debates, for example.

With respect, I don't think it's proper to target a member for shame in this way.  Expressing your opinion about his name is your prerogative, but the auto signature tactic is abusive of Scripture, and took me by surprise.  Whether you two like each other or not, there are lines we just shouldn't cross.  

'nuff said on my part about it. I apologize for the derailment.  On with the CMRI debate!


"gαy" is a polysemous word, too. Perhaps you would like to change your name to that because you like its "light-hearted" denotation?


Why the semantics?

You know why you chose that Scripture and it was strictly you attempting to insult me. Thankfully in your stupidity it served a good purpose when I used it to point out to Mabel her hypocrisy.

Just more of that good old CMRI wonderful Christian charity on display.

Is the CMRI schismatic?
« Reply #106 on: December 03, 2014, 04:08:01 PM »
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"gαy" is a polysemous word, too. Perhaps you would like to change your name to that because you like its "light-hearted" denotation?


I'm not sure why you felt the need to use such an example and suggest I would use the evil nickname of one of the 4 sins that cries to Heaven for vengeance.





Offline Stubborn

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Is the CMRI schismatic?
« Reply #107 on: December 03, 2014, 04:16:47 PM »
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That's not a rebuttal. That is a little-boy denial. It means nothing intellectually.

Pope Michael wasn't elected by Roman clergy, so he is not pope.


So what? Schuckardt was not ordained and consecrated by the Roman clergy either and the CMRI officially trumpet that they trace their lineage back to him.  

You foolishly claim epikeia is justification for schism as if that's a universally accepted fact or something.

Again, all you continue to offer is that schism is a permissible option under certain circuмstances - and it seems you understand that only schismatics think that way - Question: you do understand that only schismatics think that way, don't you? - yes or no?


Bump!

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« Reply #108 on: December 03, 2014, 04:17:54 PM »
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Nobody should be touting being "stubborn" as if it were a virtue, because it is not. Nothing insulting about helping you, and others, realize that.


Ok, mission accomplished.  It is brought to our attention.

The word 'stubborn' has degrees of connotation and we don't know his intent for using it.  Nevertheless, using Holy Scripture as a tool to humiliate him with every comment you make is wrong.  Your intent is clear, and it's not to help him or others.  

I am still hopeful you will do the right thing.  

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« Reply #109 on: December 03, 2014, 04:52:18 PM »
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Nobody should be touting being "stubborn" as if it were a virtue, because it is not. Nothing insulting about helping you, and others, realize that.


Ok, mission accomplished.  It is brought to our attention.

The word 'stubborn' has degrees of connotation and we don't know his intent for using it.  Nevertheless, using Holy Scripture as a tool to humiliate him with every comment you make is wrong.  Your intent is clear, and it's not to help him or others.  

I am still hopeful you will do the right thing.  


Thanks PerEvangelicaDicta and you're correct that's what it is about - but no worries, I take no offense at it.

It thinks saints make it to heaven by not being stubborn and that we can keep the faith by not stubbornly persevering in it till our end.  I fail to understand that but that's just me.

No, I changed my forum nickname to Stubborn some 15 years ago for a number of reasons, not the least of which was being told how stubborn I was because I would not bend to accept the compromises that so many others have.

In order to keep the faith and be an active member of the Church Militant, we all need to be stubborn or we will end up compromising - just like all those compromisers did who lost the true faith to embrace the new faith some 50 years ago did - I saw it happen and IMO, had they all been stubborn for the faith, I don't see how there would be a crisis at all, but they weren't and 50 years later -  look what happens when you are not stubborn, when you  compromise.

Something else to note is if it weren't for those stubborn Catholics who refused to compromise, there would be no traditional Mass for today's compromisers to mock, no True Faith for the compromisers to continually dilute and degrade and no True Mass at all for the compromisers to claim is only a superior version of the new "mass".

No, I plan to keep my name because regardless of it's social overtones, it's what I am and what I hope to die - stubborn enough to, with the grace of God,  keep the faith unto the end.