Author Topic: Is the CMRI schismatic? (Read 64285 times)

Elizabeth · « **on:** November 17, 2014, 04:33:51 PM »

The SSPV are the prime support for claims against the CMRI. They also claim the laypeople of CMRI are not Catholic.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2014, 05:27:51 PM »

They use the name of one Schuckardt because they can't find any legitimate reason, since CMRI only teaches the One True Faith, everything in the deposit of Faith, and their Bishop relies on Encyclicals and writings of True past popes to instruct anyone who has ears to hear, not opinions.

They can't find anything, and hate the fact that their Bishop will not compromise, will not please man just for the sake of financial support from those who are not willing to walk the walk and talk the talk.

Their main support is a the name of Shuckardt.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2014, 06:54:30 PM »

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Quote from: Elizabeth
The SSPV are the prime support for claims against the CMRI. They also claim the laypeople of CMRI are not Catholic.

When I said "prime support" I am referring to the reason for why one would say the association of Schuckardt has made them schismatic.

Read Mario Derksen's Open Letter for free online and it will explain much better than I could.

Cantarella · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:20:07 PM »

Cantarella · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:22:37 PM »

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They use the name of one Schuckardt because they can't find any legitimate reason, since CMRI only teaches the One True Faith, everything in the deposit of Faith, and their Bishop relies on Encyclicals and writings of True past popes to instruct anyone who has ears to hear, not opinions.

They can't find anything, and hate the fact that their Bishop will not compromise, will not please man just for the sake of financial support from those who are not willing to walk the walk and talk the talk.

Their main support is a the name of Shuckardt.

I do not think I even mentioned the name Schuckardt when explaining the reasons of why the CMRI is schismatic. The main reason why CMRI is schismatic is because it refuses submission and juridical union to the Roman Pontiff.

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Canon 751 says: "Schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."

Bishops in schism, heresy, or apostasy such as Bs. Piravunas cannot pass on Apostolic Succession, (one of the marks of the True Church); although it is possible for some of them to pass on valid orders.

The CMRI cleric has no ordinary jurisdiction because: "This power of jurisdiction flows to the bishops only through the Successor of Saint Peter." Epikeia is not an act of jurisdiction, and epikeia cannot be used to obtain jurisdiction. "Even if valid orders exist, where jurisdiction is lacking there is no real Apostolic Succession."