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Are the teachings of the Universal Ordinary Magesterium infallible?

Yes
22 (71%)
No
0 (0%)
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4 (12.9%)
Other
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Voting closed: September 29, 2022, 04:57:29 PM

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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Is the Catholic Magisterium Infallible?
« on: September 19, 2022, 04:57:29 PM »
Are the teachings of the Universal Ordinary Magesterium infallible?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Not Sure
4) Other
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is the Catholic Magisterium Infallible?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2022, 05:33:05 PM »
Pope Pius XI, Divini Illius Magistri (#18), Dec. 31, 1929: “… God Himself made the Church a sharer in the divine magisterium and by His divine benefit unable to be mistaken.” ... “To this magisterium Christ the Lord imparted immunity from error...”

Pope Gregory XVI, Commissum Divinitus (# 4), May 17, 1835: “... the Church has, by its divine institution, the power of the magisterium to teach and define matters of faith and morals and to interpret the Holy Scriptures without danger of error.”

Pope Leo XIII, Caritatis Studium (#6) July 25, 1898: The Magisterium “could by no means commit itself to erroneous teaching.”
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is the Catholic Magisterium Infallible?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2022, 06:28:50 PM »
Can't vote.  OUM is infallible on matters that are taught thereby to be "divinely revealed" (as per the VI definition).  But, as CE states, as a matter of practical judgment, it's not always possible to discern whether something has been taught infallibly by the OUM.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm
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And while for subsequent ages down to our own day it continues to be theoretically true that the Church may, by the exercise of this ordinary teaching authority arrive at a final and infallible decision regarding doctrinal questions, it is true at the same time that in practice it may be impossible to prove conclusively that such unanimity as may exist has a strictly definitive value in any particular case, unless it has been embodied in a decree of an ecuмenical council, or in the ex cathedra teaching of the pope, or, at least, in some definite formula such as the Athanasian Creed. Hence, for practical purposes and in so far as the special question of infallibility is concerned, we may neglect the so called magisterium ordinarium ("ordinary magisterium") and confine our attention to ecuмenical councils and the pope.

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is the Catholic Magisterium Infallible?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2022, 06:30:10 PM »
Quote from: Stubborn on September 19, 2022, 05:33:05 PM
Pope Pius XI, Divini Illius Magistri (#18), Dec. 31, 1929: “… God Himself made the Church a sharer in the divine magisterium and by His divine benefit unable to be mistaken.” ... “To this magisterium Christ the Lord imparted immunity from error...”

Pope Gregory XVI, Commissum Divinitus (# 4), May 17, 1835: “... the Church has, by its divine institution, the power of the magisterium to teach and define matters of faith and morals and to interpret the Holy Scriptures without danger of error.”

Pope Leo XIII, Caritatis Studium (#6) July 25, 1898: The Magisterium “could by no means commit itself to erroneous teaching.”

Do you realize what these words mean when you hold the exact opposite?
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Is the Catholic Magisterium Infallible?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2022, 06:55:26 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 19, 2022, 06:30:10 PM
Do you realize what these words mean when you hold the exact opposite?
:popcorn:
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