Author Topic: Is Jesus immortal or Eternal ? (Read 2998 times)

Deliveringit1 · « **on:** May 07, 2012, 10:41:32 PM »

Seems to me that an immortal is a mortal(human being) who can never die, whether we are talking about the physical body and/or the soul. So the Saints could be considered to be immortal by the grace of God. However, it doesn't seem right to claim Jesus is immortal since he was never a mortal(human being). Jesus had a human nature, but remained Divine in "person" and in 'being". That being said, it seems that only the term Eternal can apply to Jesus since Jesus had no beginning, has no end, and was never a mortal.

The Divine Mercy prayer calls God by the term "Holy Immortal One",... Sister Faustina from my understanding received that prayer from Jesus himself when he appeared to her.

Also, from my understanding, before Vatican II the Divine Mercy apparition occurrence was being condemned by the Church, but later was revived by John Paul II.

So, what are your thoughts on this?

Graham · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2012, 11:39:16 PM »

I'm not going to overthink this one. Immortal means not mortal. Jesus is not mortal, so he's immortal.

Jitpring · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2012, 12:27:27 AM »

Doesn't immortality imply creation? Souls are created and immortal. Yet Jesus is uncreated and is thus eternal.

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2012, 09:11:09 AM »

Quote from: Deliveringit1

Seems to me that an immortal is a mortal(human being) who can never die, whether we are talking about the physical body and/or the soul. So the Saints could be considered to be immortal by the grace of God. However, it doesn't seem right to claim Jesus is immortal since he was never a mortal(human being). Jesus had a human nature, but remained Divine in "person" and in 'being". That being said, it seems that only the term Eternal can apply to Jesus since Jesus had no beginning, has no end, and was never a mortal.

The Divine Mercy prayer calls God by the term "Holy Immortal One",... Sister Faustina from my understanding received that prayer from Jesus himself when he appeared to her.

Also, from my understanding, before Vatican II the Divine Mercy apparition occurrence was being condemned by the Church, but later was revived by John Paul II.

So, what are your thoughts on this?

Jesus is GOD

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2012, 10:08:10 AM »

Jesus has two natures. This is Catholic Dogma. He is equal to God with respect to his divinity; he is less than god with respect to his humanity (from the Athanasian Creed).

Thus, with respect to his divine nature, Jesus is eternal.

With respect to his human nature, Jesus, having been resurrected, is immortal.

"Holy Immortal One" is a proper title of God more common in the Eastern Rites than in the West, though, if I'm not mistaken, the Latin Rite uses this term on Good Friday. This being said, the Divine Mercy devotion of Sister Faustina should be avoided due to its condemnation by the Holy Office when the Catholic faith still held sway in Rome.

In answer to the original question, Jesus is both eternal and immortal.