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Offline Conspiracy_Factist

Re: Is Francis the Pope?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 07:52:38 PM »
NO
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Offline poche

Re: Is Francis the Pope?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2019, 08:36:10 AM »
Quote from: cassini on October 31, 2019, 06:35:22 AM
A friend sent this on to me. It is a position I have held for many years. Material heresy and formal heresy have been involved in the Galileo case, a study I have devoted much time to. In the article the author says: 'As bishop Schneider points out, this question is unprecedented in the history of the Church.' Now this may be true as regards the overall behaviour of a pope, it is not regarding heretical popes. Pope Paul V in 1616 had defined heliocentrism formal heresy. Pope Pius VII in 1820 was conned into material heresy when allowing a heretical reading of Scripture. As this article records, no pope will be allowed by God to officially deny an official dogma or decree of a previous pope. When researching the Galileo case I found no such denial of the 1616 decree by any pope since 1616. Quite the opposite, even the Church of 1820 agreed it was papal and not reversible.

The following article will help many come to terms with the prevailing situation in the Churcvh.

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The problem you have is who is competent to sit in judgement? The Code of Canon Law says the following; 

Can. 1404 The First See is judged by no one.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/docuмents/cic_lib7-cann1400-1500_en.html#TITLE_I.
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Offline Don Paolo

Re: Is Francis the Pope?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2019, 09:33:20 AM »
Geocentrism was never dogmatically defined, nor was heliocentrism defined ex cathedra to be formally heretical. First, heliocentrists do not hold, 《“That the sun is in the centre of the world and altogether immovable by local movement,”》Modern heliocentrism only professes the sun to be at the center of the solar system; and not the center of the universe, as was profesded by heliocentrists in Galileo's day. Secondly, the cited docuмent is not a magisterial dogmatic constitution but a disciplinary decree addressed to tribunals and nunciatures. It is quite simply not an ex cathedra definition.
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Offline roscoe

Re: Is Francis the Pope?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2019, 10:40:30 AM »
E rev around S :cheers:
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Offline poche

Re: Is Francis the Pope?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 01:06:57 AM »
In 2013 there was a conclave. White smoke appeared coming out the chimney. The dean of cardinals appeared at the window and said the words, "Habemus Papam..." Then out came the old Cardinal Bergoglio, now known as Pope Francis. 
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