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Offline SJB

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Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
« on: April 15, 2012, 10:14:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: latinmassnewmexico.com
    Perhaps the most important and widely esteemed theologian of the twenty-first century, Fr. Anthony Cekada continues to garner international praise for his outstanding theological analysis of the New Mass entitled, Work of Human Hands (Philothea Press: 2010). This formidable masterpiece, lauded even by some of Rome's top Vatican theologians, makes Fr. Cekada a giant in the world of liturgical scholarship. Among his manys irrefutable studies is the erudite Problems with the Prayers of the Modern Mass (Tan Books: 1991). The immensely popular Ottaviani Intervention (Philothea Press: 2010) established Fr. Cekada as the pre-eminent journalist of Vatican II modernism. A tireless apologist for the Catholic faith as well as a professor of theology at our nation's finest Catholic seminary, Fr. Cekada has published innumerable articles along with some celebrated pamphlets, including Traditionalists, Infallibility,and the Pope. Fr. Cekada is best known for his clarity and philosophical penetration, the fruits of irreproachable fidelity to the method of St. Thomas combined with a broad classical education.



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    In addressing the Fr. Feeney issue in Baptism of Desire: An Exchange, Fr. Cekada affirms the point that "The unanimous teaching of theologians in matters of faith and morals establishes certitude for the proof of a dogma." Father had cited a list of 25 theologians who unanimously supported the teaching of Baptisms of Blood and Desire, and a lay writer, wishing to contest that, mentioned that St. Francis Xavier and Fr. Feeney were also "card-carrying theologians" who did not support the teaching of Baptisms of Blood and Desire, so if only 25 out of 27 theologians support Baptisms of Blood and Desire, "Is the teaching still 'unanimous'?"

    Father's wise and brilliant response to that lay writer could be summed up as saying that "there are theologians and there are theologians." On the one hand there are those courses in theology that every priest must take in the course of his seminary training, or even what he might take if, while in seminary he chooses specifically to major in Theology, versus on the other hand those truly great and significant theologians of the sort who qualify for that elite list of the 25 originally cited in support of Baptisms of Blood and Desire. It is a difference comparable to that between some "Geek Squad" workers in your local department store who fix your computer, versus Bill Gates and those with him who practically invented the computer systems as we have them today.

    Father points out that "As I explained in Section II of my original article, the term 'theologian' connotes extensive research work, a distinguished teaching career at a Pontifical University, publication of multi-volume theological treatises, etc. As far as I know, St. Francis Xavier would not meet these criteria. His writings, as I recall, were limited to letters. Nor would Fr. Feeney. His earlier writings were popular religious works. And his later works would not meet the fourth criteria Salaverri lays down: 'orthodoxy in doctrine acknowledged by the Church, at least insofar as [his] writings are used by the faithful and students knowingly and without reproof by the Magisterium of the Church.'"
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    Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
    « Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 10:23:37 PM »
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  • Another rather telling tidbit from the same website:

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    TraditionalMass.org

    This authoritative site offers articles by recognized Catholic bishops and priests exercising the universal ordinary magisterium. Those wishing to acquire a pure, orthodox understanding of their faith are greatly encouraged to enjoy the site's many articles covering every conceivable subject pertaining to the Church's current situation. No need for puffed-up "lay apologists" when our Holy Church offers a regular clergy possessing both training and authority.
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    Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
    « Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012, 11:45:31 PM »
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  • Your question is to be answered in the negative.

    As I have written elsewhere, Father Cekada is not as clerics of the past, who had a Canonical mission and office, or as scholars of past ages who were formally trained in Pontifical Universities and awarded licentiates and doctorates in Sacred Theology, Canon Law, etc., for their scholarly research and tested learning.

    He is not a theologian, nor a Canonist, nor a casuist, etc., strictly speaking: in fact, no one is in the sedevacantist movement; we're just trying to help each other get through this crisis and arrive at real solutions... or at least that should be the case.

    But this is not limited to just this particular Priest.

    Everyone of us is a mere amateur, with more or less plentiful libraries. Regarding the present day clerics, Holy Orders may supply the graces necessary to fulfill competently and decorously the sacred offices necessary for the pastoral care of souls in these tumultuous times (provided that the Priest cooperates with such graces in the cultivation of the interior life so as to arrive at the illuminative and unitive ways); but it cannot supply for deficient scholarship, especially when private speculations, poorly substantiated, are imperiously superimposed as categorical imperatives.

    Anyways, as one approaches the apices of the mystical ways of prayer, reason gives way to self-abandonment and utter docility to the operations of the gifts of the Holy Ghost, especially wisdom. Sanctity and probity of life should be the goal of the clergy and laity, not learning as if it were an end unto itself.
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.

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    Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
    « Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 12:17:29 AM »
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  • If the guy that wrote those blurbs is available, I'd hire him to write my next resume.

    On a somewhat different angle, I would like to see exactly what courses have been taught at Econe, and by whom.

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    Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
    « Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 04:54:37 PM »
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    Ah, SJB is up to his anti-Cekada "apostolate" again...quoting Fr. Cekada's own words to try to force everyone to believe that by Father's own admission he is not a theologian after all. And, of course, SJB asks the question rather than making a statement of his own belief. The usual.

    Has any research at all been done? Any deep thinking before posting?

    Let's quote A Catholic Dictionary:

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    THEOLOGIAN. i. A master or student of theology.
       ii. An aspirant to the priesthood who has completed his philosophical course, and is studying theology, often called in England a "divine."


    All priests are theologians. But that is not the connotation of which Fr. Cekada treats in context. He is speaking of the "Church's theologians", meaning those who are public, prominent, at least tacitly approved by Holy Mother Church, and therefore represent legitimate Catholic thinking in theology. Fr. Cekada speaks in the context of the theologian necessarily being a representative of Church thinking, not merely one who is a master or student of theology. The "Church's theologian" is not merely "a theologian in the Church".


    Ah yes, Bazz ... quoting Fr. Cekada's own words is such a crime.

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    Perhaps the most important and widely esteemed theologian of the twenty-first century, Fr. Anthony Cekada continues to garner international praise for his outstanding theological analysis of the New Mass ...




     

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    Is Fr. Anthony Cekada a theologian?
    « Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 07:29:48 PM »
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  • A theologian he may be, in the sense that he is knowledgeable about theology.  The notion that he is one of the most renowned and respected theologians of the 21st century is just silly.  And I say that as someone with absolutely no dog in the SGG fight, and no animosity toward Father Cekada beyond disagreement with his sedevacantism.  
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