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Is Cardinal scar Rodrguez Maradiaga a heretic
« on: January 30, 2014, 11:35:34 PM »
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  • Just wondering after reading the Cardinal's speech. My take is this Cardinal speaks like a freemason more than a Catholic. I also think that he intends to end Preisthood as Catholics know it. here is a link to the Cardinal's entire remarks.

    http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-councils-unfinished-business.html

    I include parts of his speech and also Pius X both on Modernism

    PASCENDI DOMINICI GREGIS
    ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS X
    ON THE DOCTRINES
    OF THE MODERNISTS
     
    To the Patriarchs, Primates, Archbishops, Bishops
    and other Local Ordinaries in Peace
    and Communion with the Apostolic See.
    Venerable Brethren, Health and Apostolic Benediction.
    The office divinely committed to Us of feeding the Lord's flock has especially this duty assigned to it by Christ, namely, to guard with the greatest vigilance the deposit of the faith delivered to the saints, rejecting the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called. There has never been a time when this watchfulness of the supreme pastor was not necessary to the Catholic body; for, owing to the efforts of the enemy of the human race, there have never been lacking "men speaking perverse things" (Acts xx. 30), "vain talkers and seducers" (Tit. i. 10), "erring and driving into error" (2 Tim. iii. 13). Still it must be confessed that the number of the enemies of the cross of Christ has in these last days increased exceedingly, who are striving, by arts, entirely new and full of subtlety, to destroy the vital energy of the Church, and, if they can, to overthrow utterly Christ's kingdom itself. Wherefore We may no longer be silent, lest We should seem to fail in Our most sacred duty, and lest the kindness that, in the hope of wiser counsels, We have hitherto shown them, should be attributed to forgetfulness of Our office.
    Gravity of the Situation
    2. That We make no delay in this matter is rendered necessary especially by the fact that the partisans of error are to be sought not only among the Church's open enemies; they lie hid, a thing to be deeply deplored and feared, in her very bosom and heart, and are the more mischievous, the less conspicuously they appear. We allude, Venerable Brethren, to many who belong to the Catholic laity, nay, and this is far more lamentable, to the ranks of the priesthood itself, who, feigning a love for the Church, lacking the firm protection of philosophy and theology, nay more, thoroughly imbued with the poisonous doctrines taught by the enemies of the Church, and lost to all sense of modesty, vaunt themselves as reformers of the Church; and, forming more boldly into line of attack, assail all that is most sacred in the work of Christ, not sparing even the person of the Divine Redeemer, whom, with sacrilegious daring, they reduce to a simple, mere man.

    The Cardinal's below

    2. Vatican II
    The Second Vatican Council was the main event in the Church in the 20th Century. In principle, it meant an end to the hostilities between the Church and modernism, which was condemned in the First Vatican Council. On the contrary: neither the world is the realm of evil and sin –these are conclusions clearly achieved in Vatican II—nor is the Church the sole refuge of good and virtue. Modernism was, most of the time, a reaction against injustices and abuses that disparaged the dignity and the rights of the person.
    The Vatican II Council officially acknowledged that things had changed, and captured the need for such a change in its Docuмents, which emphasized truths such as these:

    1º) The Church is not the hierarchy, but the people of God. “The People of God” is, for the Council, the all-encompassing reality of the Church that goes back to the basic and the common stuff of our ecclesial condition; namely, our condition as believers. And that is a condition shared by us all. The hierarchy has no purpose in itself and for itself, but only in reference and subordination to the community. The function of the hierarchy is redefined in reference to Jesus as Suffering Servant, not as“Pantocrator” (lord and emperor of this world); only from the perspective of someone crucified by the powers of this world it is possible to found, and to explain, the authority of the Church. The hierarchy is a ministry (diakonia = service) that requires lowering ourselves to the condition of servants. To take that place (the place of weakness and poverty) is her own, her very own responsibility.

    2º). Within the people, there is not a dual classification of Christians –laity and clergy, essentially different. The Church as a “society of unequals” disappears: “There is, therefore, in Christ and in the Church no inequality” (LG 12 32).

    No ministry can be placed above this dignity common to all. Neither the clergy are “the men of God,” nor are the laity “the men of the world.” That is a false dichotomy. To speak correctly, we should not speak of clergy and laity, but instead of community and ministry. All the baptized are consecrated as a spiritual house and a holy priesthood (LG 10). Therefore, not only we clergymen are “priests,” but also, side by side with the ordained ministry, there is the common priesthood of the faithful. This change in the concept of priesthood is a fundamental one: “In Christ the priesthood is changed”(Hebrews 7: 12). Indeed, the first trait of the priesthood of Jesus is that “he had to be made like his brothers in every respect.”

    The original priesthood of Jesus is the one that has to be continued in history. And it is the basis for understanding the presbyterium and, of course, common priesthood. Thus, the whole Church, the people of God, continues the priesthood of Jesus without losing their lay character, in the realm of the profane and the unclean, the “cast out;” a priesthood that does not focus themselves exclusively in the cult at the temple, but in the entire world, with a Samaritan praxis of justice and love. This priesthood belongs to the substantive plane; the other –the presbyterium —is a ministry and cannot be conceived apart from the common priesthood.

    Fifty years have passed since these ideas were first proclaimed. But, even today, the greatest challenge is to examine the mission of the Church to conform it to the mission of Jesus. For that reason we speak in Latin America of a “Continental Mission” on par with a “pastoral conversion;” the docuмents of the Conference of Bishops in Aparecida in May of 2007 assert that, to make the right choice, and to become authentic, the Church needs only to return to Jesus.


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    Is Cardinal scar Rodrguez Maradiaga a heretic
    « Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 11:44:50 PM »
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  • Return to Jesus?!! Wth is he talking about?
    No differentiation between priests and laity?
     Words of  :devil2:
    Matthew 6:34
    " Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof."


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    Is Cardinal scar Rodrguez Maradiaga a heretic
    « Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 12:03:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mama ChaCha
    Return to Jesus?!! Wth is he talking about?
    No differentiation between priests and laity?
     Words of  :devil2:


    Cardinal Rodriguez is head of Pope Francis C8 I believe

    http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/d8ff7094400827d51ee18ab4f23b093b-148.html

    I'll just point out Pope Pius X is a prophet....filled with the Holy Spirit.

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    Is Cardinal scar Rodrguez Maradiaga a heretic
    « Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 01:00:50 AM »
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  • These are the names of the C8 cardinals who Francis picked as his inner circle of advisors for his coming "reforms":

    Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga of Tegucigalpa, Honduras, who will coordinate the effort;
    Cardinal Bertello;
    Cardinal Francisco Javier Errazuriz Ossa, the retired Archbishop of Santiago de Chile. (The Chilean prelate, who was secretary of the Congregation for Religious from 1990 to 1996, is the only other commission member with experience on the Vatican staff.)
    Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Bombay, India;
    Cardinal Reinhard Marx of Munich, Germany;
    Cardinal Laurent Monsengwo Pasinya of Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo;
    Cardinal Sean Patrick O'Malley of Boston; and
    Cardinal George Pell, archbishop of Sydney, Australia

    SOURCE
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    Is Cardinal scar Rodrguez Maradiaga a heretic
    « Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 10:56:07 AM »
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    Return to Jesus?!! Wth is he talking about?
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    I noticed I didn't answer your questions.

    The thought process of these "new age" teachers is grounded in the ancient mysteries,which is "soul conciousness" or man-god ability to astral project taught by the Egyptians. It is the essence of the counterfeit of the devil, to counter or combat the resurrection of Jesus Christ,it is the same lie that Adam fell for. The devil says "you" can be as God.

    Therefor in the Cardinals perverted teaching the Catholic Church needs to find the counterfiet Jesus or the "Mystical" Jesus. Also since everyman can achieve "soul conciousness" there is no difference betweeen laity and his mystical or enlightened priest.

    This is the essence of the perversion that is the Concilar Church.