OK...here's the transcript...I only am posting the part with the trad caller here the entire transcript is at the link I posted...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/06/16/the_pope_s_leaked_marxist_climate_rantRUSH: Okay. Sorry, folks, for the goof-up. Here's the skinny on Pope Francis and his education in chemistry. This is according to the National Catholic Reporter. "Pope Francis studied chemistry and worked as a chemist prior to entering the seminary," before he began his life with God. But the chemistry diploma is from "a state-run technical secondary school" -- this is the National Catholic Reporter --which is comparable to "a certificate from a community college in the US."
That's the extent of the pope's scientific education and knowledge. So all the rest of this is politics. All the rest of it is politics. That entire papal... Well, we haven't even seen it yet. Whatever has been leaked, the leaked aspects of the papal encyclical are pure politics. And they're right out of the left. Pick any Democrat Party candidate, and it's what they're saying. Any leftist, any socialist around the world, it's what they're all saying.
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RUSH: This is Stacy in Fort Collins, Colorado. Great to have you with us. Hi.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. It's nice to speak to you. I have to start out by saying that I was waiting tables in Fort Collins at Cooper's Brewing the day that you gave your speech for Dan's Bake Sale and I thought, "What a crazy bunch of people you are," and now, 20 years later, I am a Rush fan.
RUSH: Is that right? (chuckling) You were working in Fort Collins the day of Dan's Bake Sale? That was 1990-some-odd. I mean --
CALLER: I was. I was. standing on the parking garage, at the top of the parking garage and I watched your entire speech.
RUSH: Well, it wasn't much of a speech as I recall.
CALLER: It was very short, yeah.
RUSH: But there were like 75,000 people there.
CALLER: It was unbelievable. I'd never seen anything like it before.
RUSH: And you're standing up there saying, "What a bunch of kooks"?
CALLER: "These people are crazy," yeah. Now I'm one of them.
RUSH: And now you are.
CALLER: And I'm talking to you. It's surreal.
RUSH: It's great to have you here.
CALLER: Thank you. I'm calling on a topic I never thought I would be calling about. Not politics, but religion. I am a Catholic, and I'm in so much pain today at the possibility that my pope is spreading Marxist error. I will refrain from judging him until I've read the encyclical, and I will hopefully give him the benefit of the doubt and maybe this is all taken out of context. But it will not shock me if it is true. I think there is... You know, a lot of people are using this as a way and a vehicle to discredit the Church.
But I want to point out that there is precedence for this in the Catholic Church all the way back from its inception. Judas was an apostle who chose politics and power over God, and he ended up betraying our Lord with a kiss. And if the pope chooses Marxism over the mystical body of Christ, this is indeed a betrayal on a scale that we haven't seen before. It also is a realization of what the Blessed Mother warned us against at Fatima, which was that communism would spread her errors.
So I am... I'm absolutely distraught that I have to come out and defend my church against this, but I hope that people don't use this just to discredit it. It's kind of like the Constitution. You know, we have the bedrock principles of our Constitution, and people pervert and try to use that for their own benefit all the time. So I see the church, whose docuмents have not changed... The teaching of the church is still the same, but people are using her to push their own agenda.
RUSH: Well, here's the troubling thing. Politics by its very nature is subject to change. There's nothing... Very few articles of faith in real terms in politics. You've got a plethora of different political views. You have elections where people win and lose, various different theories are implemented, and people get to experience the results of those theories. In many cases it's hard, cold fact. Religion, at its root, is faith based. A church is the exact opposite of politics in the sense that politics is designed to bend and shape to the will of public opinion.
At least in a democracy or representative republic, it is.
Politics is designed to take the temperature of the American public and react accordingly (i.e., in elections), and there's all kinds of things that get encompassed in politics. The culture is part of politics, but religion is what it is. The Catholic Church is what it is. It's not supposed to bend and shape to accommodate the failings of the flock. It is not supposed to bend and shape so the flock can get away with committing sin. It's not supposed to redefine sin. The church is supposed to... This is why the left hates it.
CALLER: Correct, but the pope is not speaking ex cathedra. He is not speaking infallibly. He is giving out an encyclical, which is just his teaching. So it goes out to all the bishops and they can... You don't have to believe this to be Catholic. The bedrock principles that you have to believe as a Catholic are the same. So people can try and pervert them all they want to, but they don't change, like birth control and gαy marriage. So people can try and politicize them all they want, but if you really look at the docuмents and the teachings of the Catholic Church, they are exactly the same as they were going back to Peter.
RUSH: For the most part, yeah. I mean, you've had Vatican I and Vatican II.
CALLER: Which is highly.... You know, this has been such a wound to the faith. I'm a traditional Catholic. I hate saying that word, but I go to the Tridentine Mass because I do see the modernism that has seeped into our church, and it has caused a great deal of pain and suffering. But the comfort that we have is that we do have these... You know, everything about the church is still there. So if people want to love the church, if they want to be Catholic, the rules haven't changed. The teachings and guideposts of it church are the same.
RUSH: The articles of faith.
CALLER: They are exactly the same. Despite how much people want to change them, they are the same.
RUSH: And that's the point. It is not supposed to bend and shape to popular opinion.
CALLER: Absolutely.
RUSH: That's why it's valuable. That's why terms like "the rock" are used. I know that the encyclical is not a religious article of faith, and Catholics are not required to believe it. It's not part of the actual teachings of the church. But what it represents... If this is true, if the pope has come out and said that, he just sounds like another member nation of the UN.
CALLER: That's right.
RUSH: The US is guilty. Western nations are rich. They're polluting the world, they're destroying the climate, and they've got a duty to stop and give more money to the poor and so forth. If the left can get to a pope and corrupt an encyclical, they're gonna be inspired to keep going and try to corrupt the whole thing.
CALLER: Correct. But the church's official teaching on communism is that it was condemned. So like I said, this is absolutely one of the most painful phone calls that I've ever made, to have to defend my church against something Marxist that my pope has said. I can't even believe I'm living in a time like this.
RUSH: Well, Marxism, in the sense... I was making an economic analysis. Obviously the Catholic Church has to stand against communism. Communism doesn't believe in God. Communists do not permit belief in God. There's no such thing permitted or allowed. The Catholic Church can never, ever become communist.
CALLER: Correct. But if the pope is coming out and he's promoting an idea that says that we should annihilate all countries and have a world government, I mean, we are at a scary and spooky place.
RUSH: It is.
CALLER: And, you know, I think I have an obligation to speak out.
RUSH: I understand. It's gonna make a lot of people nervous because this is the kind of thing that the church has always been a safe haven from. There are exceptions, of course. But never forget, always remember, that even the Washington Post story reporting on this encyclical alludes to the possibility that it's totally made up and is a leak designed to harm Il Papa. And this has happened a lot. The pope is reported to have said something, whatever it is that sounds way off the beaten path, and people react to it.
And then later it is learned the Vatican announces, "The pope didn't say that! That was taken out of context. That's not what the pope actually said. This is the work of muckrakers trying to create problem. The pope never said it." It's happened a lot, which is what has made me think they engage in the trial balloon aspect of politics. Float something, see what the reaction is, and then decide later whether to legitimize it or say, "Nah-nah-nah-nah. That's a leak. That's not true."
We'll have to wait and see on this. But this has been predicted, rumored or what have you. This encyclical still hasn't been released, but even prior to today there has been speculation that what it's reported to be today was exactly what it is and is coming. Anyway, Stacy, so many years after Dan's Bake Sale at Fort Collins, it's great to know you're still there and part of us now.
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