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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2020, 08:55:57 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on September 14, 2020, 11:49:09 AM
He does when he wants to seem pious, and he answers a logical question with sentimentalism, or dodges it altogether.
Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but I've never really seen him reason properly.  If I wanted to argue that people should attend NO masses in the absenece of a TLM option, I could do so far more reasonably than he could.  Not to say I'd be right, but I could do so in a way that at least makes logical sense given the premises.  Poche's argument literally doesn't follow from his premises at all.  Neither Bishop Williamson nor Fr. Pfeifer would even claim juridical authority over souls anyways.
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2020, 05:58:15 AM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on September 14, 2020, 08:55:57 PM
Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but I've never really seen him reason properly.  If I wanted to argue that people should attend NO masses in the absenece of a TLM option, I could do so far more reasonably than he could.  Not to say I'd be right, but I could do so in a way that at least makes logical sense given the premises.  Poche's argument literally doesn't follow from his premises at all.  Neither Bishop Williamson nor Fr. Pfeifer would even claim juridical authority over souls anyways.
What you are not accepting is that his reasoning is derived from his conciliar faith. You (and the rest of us on CI ?), correctly see that his reasoning is improper, but you are not connecting where he gets his reasoning from, which is his conciliar faith, which is drenched and permeated in Modernism, more specifically, Liberalism. These are the traits he reasons with, the same as all avid NOers, which is why you will rarely ever see him reason properly.

Which is why I said that he serves as a shining example as to why we must always stay away from the NO, lest we too become infected with the same liberal thinking. 
 
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2020, 07:12:56 AM »

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Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but I've never really seen him reason properly.

He has in the past, with surprising coherence.  It surprised us all.  So either 1) Poche hides behind his fake-pious-sentimentalism to spread disorder and confusion (let's not forget that he's been kicked off other sites), or 2) there are multiple people behind his account (which would explain a lot), or 3) both.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2020, 08:12:08 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on September 15, 2020, 07:12:56 AM
He has in the past, with surprising coherence.  It surprised us all.  So either 1) Poche hides behind his fake-pious-sentimentalism to spread disorder and confusion (let's not forget that he's been kicked off other sites), or 2) there are multiple people behind his account (which would explain a lot), or 3) both.
That's a favourite of everyone in the NO. You'll see priests and bishops doing it 24/7, and there's not a single sentence that Francis has ever uttered that wasn't "fake-pious-sentimentalism". It's a convenient way of dodging a question. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is It a Mortal Sin to Attend the New Mass.
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2020, 11:27:33 AM »
Well, I've asked poche repeatedly to state his principles, i.e. explain where he goes to Mass and why he hangs out on a Traditional Catholic forum.  He refused to answer that.  Consequently, I have come to the conclusion that he's trolling here.  There's no reason not to answer simple questions like, "I don't believe there was any error in Vatican II and I attend Mass at the FSSP" or something like that.  90% of his activity is justifying even the most outrageous misbehavior of the V2 papal claimants., but the arguments are often disingenuous if not mendacious, and so it makes me question his sincerity.
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