Author Topic: Intra Ecclesiam Conciliariam Nulla Salus (Read 720 times)

Matto · « **on:** August 27, 2013, 03:47:59 PM »

I am reading Who Shall Ascend by Father Wathen. A part of the book is titled Intra Ecclesiam Conciliariam Nulla Salus, or Inside the Conciliar Church there is No Salvation. Do you think that it is true that the conciliar sect has become no different than a protestant church and that all who die in it are damned just like the members of any other false religion?

MyrnaM · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2013, 04:02:15 PM »

We are all sinners, and we need the sacraments of the Church to restore us to Sanctifying grace. If those sacraments are destroyed, your only hope is to have a perfect act of contrition.

So, yes, it is possible to save your soul and be restored to the true church, but not easy and a gamble for sure. Better to keep the Faith and rely on the Sacraments of the Church to help us if we need them.

Remember these people are being brain washed to believe that all men are saved, do you even think they worry about it.

Cathedra · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2013, 04:36:05 PM »

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Cathedra · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2013, 04:38:23 PM »

Quote from: Matto

I am reading Who Shall Ascend by Father Wathen. A part of the book is titled Intra Ecclesiam Conciliariam Nulla Salus, or Inside the Conciliar Church there is No Salvation. Do you think that it is true that the conciliar sect has become no different than a protestant church

It has.

Which is why i detest and hate the r&r position because it equates this damnable sect, this WHORE, with the Holy Catholic Church, the Spotless Bride of Christ.

Which is blasphemous and heretical.

Quote from: Matto

and that all who die in it are damned just like the members of any other false religion?

That is pretty much what is happening and the result of belonging to the Novus Ordo.

It leads you to Hell.

Even the most "conservative" ones in the Novus Ordo are total apostates.

Just look at what they're doing now. They're outta control.

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2013, 04:46:18 PM »

Protestant Church's admit freely that they are not Catholic. The Conciliar sect atleast pretends to be Catholic. So in that sense, no the Conciliar sect is not like Protestants. However, it is more wicked because it pretends to be something that it is not. It pretends to be able to play nice with the world and still have a shot at salvation.

Now of course in order to be able to get outside of that sect there has to be some knowledge. I have yet to talk to someone that does not get a feeling that something is seriously wrong. The institution no longer has any respect and even her most "loyal" members give no obedience or allegiance to her more conservative wing. It has really become more of a social club, but it has become just as mainstream as most major false world religions.

So it gives the illusion to Catholics that they are able to be of Mammon and worship God truly at the same time. They live under the greatest of illusions, that is to be able to think you are Catholic and be the cool guy.

They practice NFP without scruples or anything, same number of "divorces" etc... To those who know what the Church teaches they make a complete mockery of it.

You cannot then say it as a Universal that everyone in the Conciliar sect is non-Catholic. You can objectively say they are not Catholic, but subjectively (individual cases) it may vary. God never abandons those who are seeking truth.