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Offline Cecelia

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 06:10:57 PM »
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    However, back to the serious stuff, post-doctrinal talks, the Society will have to update its mission statement to see it through the next forty years. If Bp. Williamson is any guide we are going to see recourse to much flowery language to keep the pews filled. In his latest missive he talks of the Society working for the Universal Church as the providential guardian of the Deposit of Faith. This no longer residing in Rome but in a Rome of tomorrow. Do not SVs say the same thing?


    Well said

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    « Reply #16 on: November 09, 2010, 11:51:11 PM »
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  • a reply to CAMINUS on her defending vatican II....pls note that vatican II is FORMULATED with the help of NON-CATHOLIC "pastors"invited to take part so as to assist and be consulted in "cooking" the new mass and the council itself!!!...it is docuмented!! try to research!!..why the need for this non-catholic to actively participate even to some "small points"...????
    isn't it because they want an acceptable mass and not offending to protestants??...even if it means offending our lord?? .. how about ecuмenical prayers even with non christians? where idols is placed side by side with the holy eucharist!! you think our lord is pleased with it?!!! ...
    ......if you can take that!! then go on!! and shout out to this forum that your a real Catholic!! im not a sdvacantist but i can clearly see the point...god bless!http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?a=post&s=reply&t=12156#


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    « Reply #17 on: November 10, 2010, 05:31:25 AM »
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  • Vatican II was the final triumpth of all those masonic popes, priests, princes, orders and theologians that nibbled away at the Church for centuries. More notably the duplicity of pre-V2 prelates in preparing for such an intended revolution. One does not need law books to support the sheer clarity of one's eyes.

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    « Reply #18 on: November 11, 2010, 09:12:06 AM »
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    Vatican II was the final triumpth of all those masonic popes, priests, princes, orders and theologians that nibbled away at the Church for centuries. More notably the duplicity of pre-V2 prelates in preparing for such an intended revolution. One does not need law books to support the sheer clarity of one's eyes.



    1100% true!!... the intention is very clear!! ..so to those who keep on defending vatican II, wake up and just use your common sense! are you happy just watching our fellow catholic brethren fell down to other christian sects! these are the fruits of vatican II... how about using "vail"for the woman upon entering the church..respect..respect!!...why is it not thought today?
    and how about the holy eucharist being accidentally dropped by communicants?... holy eucharist being reduced to somewhat "symbolic"...so its ok! ..to drop it is not intentional! Christ forgives!! tsk..tsk...

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    « Reply #19 on: November 11, 2010, 11:08:14 AM »
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  • christ teaching is final! so why the need to "change it to "fit for the new generation" or to our present time?? sounds like this innovators are far greater than our lord! seems that christ didn't knew it beforehand? ..hmmp!
    ...and this "ecuмenical thing"...poor saints!! they offered there lives to defend  christ teaching...  now it is offered as a bargain for the sake of so called"unity" and "oneness" .... stand up people! or you are just contented going to your charismatic "mass" soon you can never tell the difference of a catholic mass to a protestant service!! we are surely innovating to the point of offending God.. for the porpose of ecuмenism! so we may all unite!! {in one world religion! and the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr! bravo!}  praise the lord! clap your hands to the lord! ( you think our Lord is pleased??) God bless to those who cares!!


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    « Reply #20 on: November 11, 2010, 11:50:05 AM »
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  • ..by the way im not a sedevacantist! im just a catholic who sees the error
    of the present time...and im not gonna sit here and watch! how i wish we could be like giant bell to rang our sentiments to every catholic in this planet...
    its true there are "wolves" in ships clothing in the midst of our bishops and priest. . .
    are they really member of masonic lodges?? just asking.. whew!

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    « Reply #21 on: November 11, 2010, 12:07:48 PM »
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  • whatever happens we must not leave our catholic faith... lets all work to really restore the faith! do your share ...  

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    « Reply #22 on: January 03, 2011, 07:05:27 PM »
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  •  :kick-can:bump :kick-can:


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    « Reply #23 on: January 03, 2011, 09:13:25 PM »
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    You were with the Society of Saint Pius X as a seminarian and as a priest for sixteen years, from 1992 to 2008. You were in the Society long enough to have been an eyewitness to some of the changes in the mentality of its bishops and your brother priests that have taken place since Bishop Bernard Fellay met with Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict XVI on August 29, 2005. Could you describe some of these changes (refusal to criticize the Novus Ordo, the outrages that take place at "papal" Masses, such as the one in Australia during "World Youth Day" in 2008),


    WYD's 'happy' party is not heavenly, say conservative Catholics
    Herald Sun (Australia)
    July 16, 2008
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    WORLD Youth Day is just a "happy party" that will not help pilgrims prepare for heaven, a group of traditionalist Catholics say.

    Members of the Society of St Pius X argue the week-long event lacks anything truly holy or sacred - despite the attendance of Pope Benedict XVI.

    The Reverend Father Peter Scott, rector of the Holy Cross Seminary near Goulburn, says the celebrations are too secular.

    "The reason I'm not in favour of World Youth Day is because of what happens and what has consistently happened since this was initiated by Pope John Paul II," Fr Scott told ABC Radio.
    "It's become an occasion for a very secular approach to religion.

    "It's become just a happy party ... a week of parties and concerts and worldly activities with very little of anything that's truly holy and sacred and prayerful or that's profoundly Catholic for that matter."

    The Society of St Pius X grew out of opposition to Vatican II and remains in dispute with Rome over the church's modernisation.

    "We consider we are the mainstream, we are the true Catholics doing what the church has always done," Fr Scott said.

    The rector says the society's traditional masses prepare members for heaven but the World Youth Day masses are a "very liberal, easy-going, secular, un-sacred kind of thing" which won't.

    The society has about 20 churches in Australia and an estimated 3,000 adherents.

    In a Holy Cross Seminary newsletter, Fr Scott has written the "hidden life of the seminary ... is sanctified by humility, regularity, prayer and work".

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    « Reply #24 on: January 03, 2011, 09:45:40 PM »
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  • Sedes and Novus Ordites share the error of Neo-Ultramontanism.

    From there they both reach their polar opposite conclusions.

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    « Reply #25 on: January 03, 2011, 10:31:09 PM »
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  • Excellent, and soul searching in-dept article.


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    « Reply #26 on: January 03, 2011, 11:01:52 PM »
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    . He continued violating the First and Second Commandments by visiting false places of worship such as ѕуηαgσgυєs and mosques. He prayed like Muslims in the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, Turkey on Nov.30,2006. On August 19,2005, he took an active part in a Jєωιѕн worship service in a ѕуηαgσgυє in Cologne, Germany. Last year, he went again on his ѕуηαgσgυє and mosque during his pilgrimage to the Middle East.


    How does "visiting" a Mosque or ѕуηαgσgυє violate the First and Second commandments? This is where Sedes overreact. Did the apostles break the commandments by setting foot in ѕуηαgσgυєs after the Resurrection? Neo-Caths and libs think it is great, Sedes think the Pope is sinning against commandments. The Society takes the reasoned middle ground.

    The Pope prayed "like a Muslim". Really? Was he bowing to Mecca on a prayer rug saying "Allah Ahkbar"? The way it is presented in the interview, he may as well have been. "Took part in a Jєωιѕн service". Really? What does that mean? What Jєωιѕн anti-Christian prayers did he participate in?

    Some Sedes make a living off of caricaturing and/or outright misrepresenting imprudent Papal acts, making them worse than they were, then declaring "proof" of apostasy, heresy, evil, masonry and whatever other over the top label they throw on it. This is why Sedes are not taken seriously except by Sedes.

    If you want to make a credible case you need to examine each act, get the facts straight, apply Catholic principles to it, then call it what it is, even if that falls short of the diabolical act you wish it were. Yelling "fire" at the top of one's lungs every time one sees some smoke is the best way to get people to ignore your yelling altogether.