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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Thuc: Heel or Hero
« Reply #110 on: January 19, 2024, 08:56:51 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 18, 2024, 02:30:40 PM
Yeah, I'm curious too, since the only consecrations +Thuc himself did prior to the early 1980s were the Palmar ones ... and those were in 1976, not 1977.

I’m very curious too.

EDIT…..answered above.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Thuc: Heel or Hero
« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2024, 09:03:42 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 19, 2024, 08:56:51 AM
I’m very curious too.

EDIT…..answered above.

I think he may have been nested under Laborie in the Boyle chart ... but I haven't looked again.  I can only access Boyle from certain computers because their SSL cypher suite is somewhat outdated.
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Offline Hank Igitur

Re: Thuc: Heel or Hero
« Reply #112 on: January 19, 2024, 03:39:26 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2024, 09:03:42 AM
I think he may have been nested under Laborie in the Boyle chart
What is the Boyle chart/Boyle list? The reason why Bishop Jean Marie Kozik is now my Bishop is because when the Novus Ordo diocese sold off my Church to an Evangelical Protestant group back in 2010, it was his Fraternite Notre Dame which bought it in 2020, restored it and now thanks to them, it's now again a Traditional Catholic Church (for the first time since the 1960s). I will always be grateful to them for saving my Church that the diocese deliberately threw away.  
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Thuc: Heel or Hero
« Reply #113 on: January 19, 2024, 04:02:48 PM »
Quote from: Hank Igitur on January 19, 2024, 03:39:26 PM
What is the Boyle chart/Boyle list?

http://www.tboyle.net/Catholicism/Thuc_Consecrations.html

I'm curious to hear more about them.  This Bishop Jean Marie claims to have had visions.  Do you find them credible?  What is his theological position?  Sedevacantist, R&R, something else?  He's built up a very large organization.  Do you know if he was ordained a priest before being consecrated by +Thuc?  Does he have docuмentation or other evidence to back up his consecration and his ordination?

Looks (from Boyle) that he was consecrated by +Puga, who was in turn consecrated by +Thuc.  With Clemente doing consecrations, I'd be concerned about him botching them, because Clemente had absolutely no training, but +Puga was a pre-Vatican II priest and was more likely to have correctly followed the consecration rite.  But then in the other section it shows him as consecrated by Corral (perhaps both did it?), and the conditionally consecrated by +Thuc in 1978.
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Offline Didymus

Re: Thuc: Heel or Hero
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2024, 07:42:22 AM »
 I am not making a judgment on anyone, I just want to know if anyone knows the original official site or magazine where Bishop Guerard published this:

 https://web.archive.org/web/20080305062917/http://catholic.shrineofsaintjude.net/homec081.html 
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