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From Dr. Chojnowski,

Why Did We Not See this 25 Years Ago? Imposter Sister Lucy and a Facilitator of the Fake Fatima Message Contradict EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE FATIMA MESSAGE. If this Person is the Real Sister Lucy, the Fatima Center Might as Well Close Down. Science and Math, however, Have Proven that it Was Not Her.

 


- October 08, 2019

This Should Have Been Exposed a Generation Ago.

 In the interview of October 11th, 1993 between "Sister Lucy" and Carlos Evaristo, we find "Sister Lucy" actually speaking on video tape during the a one hour interview that was broadcast to all the major TV stations in Europe. The interview was conducted, not in Portuguese, but in Galician Spanish. The interview was then spoken about again by Evaristo in a taped program in 1998. Interestingly enough, Evaristo said that the tape was kept for 6 years in "humid conditions" which "accounted for the fuzzy image"] In this interview we find that "Sister Lucy" said the following:

1) Sister Lucy advises the Pope not to Reveal the Third Secret.

2) Consecration of Russia done by John Paul II on March 25, 1984 avoided a Nuclear War in 1985.

3) The Virgin never said that the Holy Father had to say the word "Russia" [during the consecration of Russia]....She said, "He will consecrate Russia to me, which will convert...and there will be peace." But that promised peace, refers to the wars and persecutions that the errors of Atheistic Communism were causing in al the world.

---- Interestingly enough, the video said that Sister Lucy had spent 50 YEARS IN A PAPAL CLOISTER in a covent in Coimbra.

In this interview, "Sister Lucy" wants to "clarify" the Message of Fatima. The Message that Carlos Evaristo considers has been the subject of "incorrect interpretations," over the years. 

4) The Consecration of Russia was accomplished by John Paul II on March 25, 1984.

5) The majority of the bishops participated an the fact that all did not was not relevant to its validity. 

6) Gorbachev was AN INSTRUMENT OF GOD IN THE PROCESS OF THE CONVERSION OF RUSSIA.

7) The fact that Russia was not referred to by name did not invalidate the consecration.

8) The consecration made by Pius XII, Paul VI, and JPII in 1982, were only partially complete for they lacked the collegial union of the bishops.

9) World War II was a war of atheism, a devil's war, a war also against the Jews who continue to be a Chosen People of God. Since he NEVER TOOK THAT PRIVILEGE AWAY FROM THEM. DESPITE THEIR REJECTION OF CHRIST.

10) "The Conversion of Russia has taken place."

11) Our Lady never said the CONVERSION OF RUSSIA WOULD BE TO CATHOLICISM. NOR TO CHRISTIANITY EVEN. It would be a conversion from militant atheism to that of any country that RESPECTS THE FREE WILL GIVEN TO MEN BY GOD.

12) "The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary has already taken place." It began WHEN OUR LADY SAVED POPE JOHN PAUL II'S LIFE in Saint Peter's Square on May 13, 1981. The Triumph is an ongoing process. Peace from the Triumph is peace from the militant spread of atheism by Communist Russia, but that does mean that no world war will take place 

13) The annihilation of nations did not pertain to any physical war or a physical annihilation. 

14) Third Secret was just for the Pope. Sister Lucy was opposed to its public revelation. 

15) Carlos Evaristo insists that, based on what he heard from "Sister Lucy," Our Lady never said that the Secret was to be revealed by 1960. 

16) The meaning of the beginning of the Third Secret was that the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception would always be defended by the Portuguese.

17) What is "Sister Lucy's" great message to the world today? HE WHO IS NOT WITH THE POPE (John Paul II) IS NOT WITH GOD. He (John Paul II --- Pope of Assisi) is God's greatest representative on earth. 

18) The Consecration of Russia brought about a regime of religious liberty in which people could exercise free will, whether they would embrace Catholicism or not.

19) Lucy said that conversion of Russia is not to the Catholic faith but freedom to choose between good and evil. 

Evaristo and Novus Ordo friends insist that the "Sister Lucy" of the two interviews was the same person as the authentic Sister Lucy of Fatima.



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  • http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/10/why-did-we-not-see-this-25-years-ago.html

    From Dr. Chojnowski,

    Why Did We Not See this 25 Years Ago? Imposter Sister Lucy and a Facilitator of the Fake Fatima Message Contradict EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE FATIMA MESSAGE. If this Person is the Real Sister Lucy, the Fatima Center Might as Well Close Down. Science and Math, however, Have Proven that it Was Not Her.

     


    - October 08, 2019

    This Should Have Been Exposed a Generation Ago.

     In the interview of October 11th, 1993 between "Sister Lucy" and Carlos Evaristo, we find "Sister Lucy" actually speaking on video tape during the a one hour interview that was broadcast to all the major TV stations in Europe. The interview was conducted, not in Portuguese, but in Galician Spanish. The interview was then spoken about again by Evaristo in a taped program in 1998. Interestingly enough, Evaristo said that the tape was kept for 6 years in "humid conditions" which "accounted for the fuzzy image"] In this interview we find that "Sister Lucy" said the following:

    1) Sister Lucy advises the Pope not to Reveal the Third Secret.

    2) Consecration of Russia done by John Paul II on March 25, 1984 avoided a Nuclear War in 1985.

    3) The Virgin never said that the Holy Father had to say the word "Russia" [during the consecration of Russia]....She said, "He will consecrate Russia to me, which will convert...and there will be peace." But that promised peace, refers to the wars and persecutions that the errors of Atheistic Communism were causing in al the world.

    ---- Interestingly enough, the video said that Sister Lucy had spent 50 YEARS IN A PAPAL CLOISTER in a covent in Coimbra.

    In this interview, "Sister Lucy" wants to "clarify" the Message of Fatima. The Message that Carlos Evaristo considers has been the subject of "incorrect interpretations," over the years.

    4) The Consecration of Russia was accomplished by John Paul II on March 25, 1984.

    5) The majority of the bishops participated an the fact that all did not was not relevant to its validity.

    6) Gorbachev was AN INSTRUMENT OF GOD IN THE PROCESS OF THE CONVERSION OF RUSSIA.

    7) The fact that Russia was not referred to by name did not invalidate the consecration.

    8) The consecration made by Pius XII, Paul VI, and JPII in 1982, were only partially complete for they lacked the collegial union of the bishops.

    9) World War II was a war of atheism, a devil's war, a war also against the Jews who continue to be a Chosen People of God. Since he NEVER TOOK THAT PRIVILEGE AWAY FROM THEM. DESPITE THEIR REJECTION OF CHRIST.

    10) "The Conversion of Russia has taken place."

    11) Our Lady never said the CONVERSION OF RUSSIA WOULD BE TO CATHOLICISM. NOR TO CHRISTIANITY EVEN. It would be a conversion from militant atheism to that of any country that RESPECTS THE FREE WILL GIVEN TO MEN BY GOD.

    12) "The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary has already taken place." It began WHEN OUR LADY SAVED POPE JOHN PAUL II'S LIFE in Saint Peter's Square on May 13, 1981. The Triumph is an ongoing process. Peace from the Triumph is peace from the militant spread of atheism by Communist Russia, but that does mean that no world war will take place

    13) The annihilation of nations did not pertain to any physical war or a physical annihilation.

    14) Third Secret was just for the Pope. Sister Lucy was opposed to its public revelation.

    15) Carlos Evaristo insists that, based on what he heard from "Sister Lucy," Our Lady never said that the Secret was to be revealed by 1960.

    16) The meaning of the beginning of the Third Secret was that the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception would always be defended by the Portuguese.

    17) What is "Sister Lucy's" great message to the world today? HE WHO IS NOT WITH THE POPE (John Paul II) IS NOT WITH GOD. He (John Paul II --- Pope of Assisi) is God's greatest representative on earth.

    18) The Consecration of Russia brought about a regime of religious liberty in which people could exercise free will, whether they would embrace Catholicism or not.

    19) Lucy said that conversion of Russia is not to the Catholic faith but freedom to choose between good and evil.

    Evaristo and Novus Ordo friends insist that the "Sister Lucy" of the two interviews was the same person as the authentic Sister Lucy of Fatima.


    Wow.
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  •  RadTrad Thomist

    Imposter Sister Lucy was a Native Portuguese Speaker.
    Posted: 13 Oct 2019 10:30 PM PDT
    Dr. Chojnowski: Sister Lucy Truth has just been informed by a Professional Linguist that the woman in this video (Sister Lucy II) has the accent of a Native Portuguese Speaker. It seems as if this woman was from Portugal. That narrows it down somewhat, no? We are trying to get a full linguistic analysis, along with a professional translation, of this video. 


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  • The truth is , the Dimond brothers tried to tell us about the Sister Lucy imposter for the past 20 years or more, but because of their (Dimond) dubious and questionable state of affairs, nobody took them seriously, even though it was as obvious then as it is now. Granted, Dr Chojnowski has done all of the due diligence needed to make the premise irrefutable. But for the Dimond brothers, it was just another laughable conspiracy theory. Sometimes a stopped clock is right twice a day. All good and truth comes from God, no matter where it comes from.

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    Imposter Sister Lucy was a Native Portuguese Speaker.
    Posted: 13 Oct 2019 10:30 PM PDT
    Dr. Chojnowski: Sister Lucy Truth has just been informed by a Professional Linguist that the woman in this video (Sister Lucy II) has the accent of a Native Portuguese Speaker. It seems as if this woman was from Portugal. That narrows it down somewhat, no? We are trying to get a full linguistic analysis, along with a professional translation, of this video.



    Sure, she would have to have spoken Portuguese.  She was to give a number of interviews.


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    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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  • Same as the “fake” Sr. Lucy:

    I can only conclude that you must regularly embarrass yourself on purpose ... as some kind of mortification.  You just dismiss everything you don't like with a wave of your sanctimonious self-righteous hand.  Unfortunately for you, the evidence for there having been a fake Sister Lucy is extremely strong.  But you won't even consider it because it doesn't fit with the paradigm you have constructed in your tiny little brain.  You are one of the most intellectually dishonest people I have ever run across.

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  • I can only conclude that you must regularly embarrass yourself on purpose ... as some kind of mortification.  You just dismiss everything you don't like with a wave of your sanctimonious self-righteous hand.  Unfortunately for you, the evidence for there having been a fake Sister Lucy is extremely strong.  But you won't even consider it because it doesn't fit with the paradigm you have constructed in your tiny little brain.  You are one of the most intellectually dishonest people I have ever run across.
    What an idiot.  Lol.  Total idiot.
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  • All you need are functioning eyes to see that there was a "replacement" Sister Lucy. It's amazing that people will not admit the obvious. 

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  • All you need are functioning eyes to see that there was a "replacement" Sister Lucy. It's amazing that people will not admit the obvious.

    Total nonsense.

    Next you will be telling me about Paul VI's ears: Clearly a body-double!!!
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    Re: Imposter Sister Lucy Contradict EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE FATIMA MESSAGE
    « Reply #10 on: October 15, 2019, 07:28:22 PM »
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  • Paul Vl is a straw man argument. Who would even care if there was an imposter? If there were two of them they were both lousy heretics anyway. The physical differences in the pics aren't that convincing.
    Sister Lucy Truth is a different story. The insertion of  S.Lucy the imposter changes the course of history,Vll, the apostasy of the Church ( Including Paulo Vl and Vll?)and the Church's subversion of the greatest message from Heaven to mankind since the time of the Apostles.  I find it hard to believe that you can't see that these are clearly two different people. It's like comparing Mary Tyler Moore and Bette Midler. Not the same person.


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    Re: Imposter Sister Lucy Contradict EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE FATIMA MESSAGE
    « Reply #11 on: October 15, 2019, 09:43:45 PM »
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  • Paul Vl is a straw man argument. Who would even care if there was an imposter? If there were two of them they were both lousy heretics anyway. The physical differences in the pics aren't that convincing.
    Sister Lucy Truth is a different story. The insertion of  S.Lucy the imposter changes the course of history,Vll, the apostasy of the Church ( Including Paulo Vl and Vll?)and the Church's subversion of the greatest message from Heaven to mankind since the time of the Apostles.  I find it hard to believe that you can't see that these are clearly two different people. It's like comparing Mary Tyler Moore and Bette Midler. Not the same person.
    Lol...whatever you say.🥴
    I think you need to reflect on the Remnant article a bit more.
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    Re: Imposter Sister Lucy Contradict EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE FATIMA MESSAGE
    « Reply #12 on: October 15, 2019, 10:06:40 PM »
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  • Thank you for being polite? ;)
    You're right. I didn't read the article- i'm used to avoiding The Remnant. It comes naturally

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    The truth is , the Dimond brothers tried to tell us about the Sister Lucy imposter for the past 20 years or more, but because of their (Dimond) dubious and questionable state of affairs, nobody took them seriously, even though it was as obvious then as it is now. Granted, Dr Chojnowski has done all of the due diligence needed to make the premise irrefutable. But for the Dimond brothers, it was just another laughable conspiracy theory. Sometimes a stopped clock is right twice a day. All good and truth comes from God, no matter where it comes from.
    The crowd is always afraid to say anything good about the Dimond's, and every time I see someone cow down to the crowd, I write something to the effect that:

    I like the Dimond's they are not afraid to speak the truth no matter the consequences. They have conviction and internal fortitude.
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