Author Topic: Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX? (Read 16854 times)

hollingsworth1 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:07:45 PM »

I just got a piece of information about +W's newly appointed lawyer. It appears now that +W will hunker down once again, and dismiss his new lawyer if so ordered by the Superior General. One can wonder why HE chose this "neo-nαzι" fellow to begin with, knowing as he must have, what the Society reaction would be. For those on the forum who think I may not have heard correctly about this latest of wrinkles in the unfolding drama, wait and see.

Matthew · « **Reply #16 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:35:21 PM »

Here's the text of the release -- we wouldn't want it to disappear. Hate to say it, but it wouldn't be the first time the SSPX removed something from their website for various reasons of "expediency".

http://www.dici.org/en/news/general-house-press-release/

The Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, has learnt by the press of Bishop Richard Williamson’s decision, just ten days before his trial, to dismiss the lawyer charged with his defense, in favor of a lawyer who is openly affiliated to the so-called neo-nαzι movement in Germany, and to other such groups.

Bishop Fellay has given Bishop Williamson a formal order to go back on this decision and to not allow himself to become an instrument of political theses that are completely foreign to his mission as a Catholic bishop serving the Society of Saint Pius X.

Disobedience to this order would result in Bishop Williamson being expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X.

Menzingen, November 20 of 2010.

Fr. Christian Thouvenot, General Secretary

Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:36:23 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth1

I just got a piece of information about +W's newly appointed lawyer. It appears now that +W will hunker down once again, and dismiss his new lawyer if so ordered by the Superior General. One can wonder why HE chose this "neo-nαzι" fellow to begin with, knowing as he must have, what the Society reaction would be. For those on the forum who think I may not have heard correctly about this latest of wrinkles in the unfolding drama, wait and see.

Maybe the Bishop wanted to be able to defend himself well during the upcoming trial?

Dawn · « **Reply #18 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:37:35 PM »

:applause: :applause:

faith3faith · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2010, 09:02:46 PM »

So Benedict says Williamson should have remained ex-communicated simply because he holds a diifferent historical viewpoint on the h0Ɩ0cαųst than that of Benedict ?!?!?

So Millions of Jєωs having been murdered in Germany is now a Dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church that a Catholic must believe, otherwise that Catholic will be threatened with ex-communication ?!?!?

Has the Catholic Church become the Jєωιѕн Church ?

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2010, 09:12:23 PM »

Quote

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2010

RORATE exclusive: Williamson dismisses controversial lawyer
RORATE CÆLI has learned from a source very close to Bishop Williamson that the Bishop will take steps to separate himself from his new lawyer, in accordance with Bishop Fellay's public order.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2010, 10:39:17 PM »

When I was in school in the 50's and the 60's, I never
heard of the six million figure. My Grandfather was a
veteran of WW2 in the European Theater, and died in
1966. I never heard him talk about it.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2010, 10:47:58 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

When I was in school in the 50's and the 60's, I never
heard of the six million figure. My Grandfather was a
veteran of WW2 in the European Theater, and died in
1966. I never heard him talk about it.

One's opinion on the matter does not suggest malice. It does suggest willingness to believe in conspiracy. But that is not malicious either.

It is a threat to those that would conspire and propagandize with impunity. Still one must be careful.

The bishop would not be in these straits had he exercised more caution.

Wessex · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2010, 04:27:07 AM »

What we need in the Church are men of courage and audacity, not weaklings and compromisers. Without them Christ's experiment on earth will fail. Bp. Williamson should face up to the shekel-counters of Menzingen. His future is better served outside the defecting Society and not as a severely marginalised victim of Fellay's treachery.

Dawn · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2010, 05:46:48 AM »

Wessex, I agree.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2010, 10:44:59 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

What we need in the Church are men of courage and audacity, not weaklings and compromisers. Without them Christ's experiment on earth will fail. Bp. Williamson should face up to the shekel-counters of Menzingen. His future is better served outside the defecting Society and not as a severely marginalised victim of Fellay's treachery.

But he shouldn't let himself be expelled over this. It would be much better to be expelled for a different reason.

Alexandria · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2010, 12:51:15 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

When I was in school in the 50's and the 60's, I never
heard of the six million figure. My Grandfather was a
veteran of WW2 in the European Theater, and died in
1966. I never heard him talk about it.

You are correct. Even in the 1970s, the "official" figure was a couple of million less.

Alexandria · « **Reply #27 on:** November 22, 2010, 02:40:36 PM »

This has to be causing division and fighting in your SSPX chapels. Unless they have changed, traditional chapels across the board are known for faithful who have very strong opinions on a wide variety of topics. :rolleyes:

Zenith · « **Reply #28 on:** November 22, 2010, 04:02:34 PM »

Quote from: faith3faith

So Benedict says Williamson should have remained ex-communicated simply because he holds a diifferent historical viewpoint on the h0Ɩ0cαųst than that of Benedict ?!?!?

So Millions of Jєωs having been murdered in Germany is now a Dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church that a Catholic must believe, otherwise that Catholic will be threatened with ex-communication ?!?!?

Has the Catholic Church become the Jєωιѕн Church ?

:applause: :applause:

Yes the Vatican has now become a ѕуηαgσgυє and Fellay is bowing down and paying homage to the golden calf of the "h0Ɩ0cαųst"!

Zenith · « **Reply #29 on:** November 22, 2010, 04:12:17 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Here's the text of the release -- we wouldn't want it to disappear. Hate to say it, but it wouldn't be the first time the SSPX removed something from their website for various reasons of "expediency".

http://www.dici.org/en/news/general-house-press-release/

The Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, has learnt by the press of Bishop Richard Williamson’s decision, just ten days before his trial, to dismiss the lawyer charged with his defense, in favor of a lawyer who is openly affiliated to the so-called neo-nαzι movement in Germany, and to other such groups.

Bishop Fellay has given Bishop Williamson a formal order to go back on this decision and to not allow himself to become an instrument of political theses that are completely foreign to his mission as a Catholic bishop serving the Society of Saint Pius X.

Disobedience to this order would result in Bishop Williamson being expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X.

Menzingen, November 20 of 2010.

Fr. Christian Thouvenot, General Secretary

:dwarf:

Since when have political theses become completely foreign to the mission of the Catholic Church?!
Has no one heard of the Kingship of Christ? Or does the Kingship of Christ simply limit Itself to purely "religious" aspects of life and society?
Does it not stand up against the evils and lies that are the "h0Ɩ0cαųst"?
We have become cowards living in a state of fear of the zionists who rule us!