I disagree with this approach. I think it’s vain to sit and wait on a miracle from God to resolve man’s mess. Faith without works. It’s useless. Of course, it won’t be laity who sort this thing out. Little that resistance or sedevacantist laity can do.

But the Church holds within itself the power to elect its head. The sooner that the world’s valid Catholic bishops acknowledge the elephant in the room, the sooner they can bring about an election of a valid Catholic pope. Valid bishops bring about a valid election without members of the Novus Ordo counterfeit religion. If +Vigano were the first of many to realize that Bergoglio (as he calls him) is invalid, I think then we would have Catholic progress.

I disagree with this approach. I think it’s vain to sit and wait on a miracle from God to resolve man’s mess. Faith without works. It’s useless. Of course, it won’t be laity who sort this thing out. Little that resistance or sedevacantist laity can do.

But the Church holds within itself the power to elect its head. The sooner that the world’s valid Catholic bishops acknowledge the elephant in the room, the sooner they can bring about an election of a valid Catholic pope. Valid bishops bring about a valid election without members of the Novus Ordo counterfeit religion. If +Vigano were the first of many to realize that Bergoglio (as he calls him) is invalid, I think then we would have Catholic progress.

History repeats itself. 

God provides the remedy when mankind humbles himself and acknowledges that he needs His help.

When the Western Schism took place men tried to fix the problem and made it worse.  Councils were held to elect new popes.  At one point there were 3 claimants to the chair of Saint Peter.

The remedy to the Western schism was an act of humility and an act of complete trust in God. 

The True Pope at the time called a council to elect a new pope and then resigned so that this could be a valid option.  The 9 day wait period of "sede-vacante" took place and then a new pope was elected. 

(See: Von Pastor's "Lives of the Popes" as a source for this.)

As for what might happen in our times...

I could not say for sure.  That is in God's Hands. 

That being said...  I think that unless a person who most recognize as pope is the one to initiate the Restoration of the Church or resign and elect another better in his place who would accept it?

Has anyone else mused about how the Crisis may come to an end, other than the three days of darkness? I mean we could talk about the three days, but I just want to see if anyone has thought of things outside the box.

Nevertheless, this is an interesting thread.     And I do agree very much with Matthew's posts, at how difficult it is to imagine ahead of time how the ring will be destroyed in Mordor.  

Well, they should have just had one of the Eagles carry Frodo all the way to Mordor, and then drop him in with the ring.

Yeah, at the end, the Eagles went and retrieved the Hobbis from Mordor, in which case one wonders why they couldn't also have taken them there.  My son, who's a big Tolkien fan, said it had something to do with the Eagles not being able to get that close to the Ring without being influenced by it ... but that sounds like a cope.

Most common explanation online is that the entrance was too small for the Eagles to fit into, but, so?, they could have at least dropped him off at the door, instead of all the peril and risk of the mission failing.  So my son probably had the best conjecture.

Most likely explanation is just that, what kind of story would it have been if they had just spent a few hours flying Frodo in and having him drop the ring in.  That would have reduced the size of the 3 volumes to about 15 pages.