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Offline SaintsSoaring

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Hello everyone,

  I've been speculating on this topic for quite a while now. If St. Augustine, St. Athanasius, St. Nicholas, St Catherine of Sienna, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Padre Pio, etc were alive today what would they do about the situation we are in today?
What "group" would they belong to?
Would they belong to the home aloners, the sedevacantists, the SSPX, the SSPV, CMRI, the FSSP, etc?

I do not think there are any right or wrong answers; it's pure speculation. Looking forward to your responses!

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  • Hello everyone,

      I've been speculating on this topic for quite a while now. If St. Augustine, St. Athanasius, St. Nicholas, St Catherine of Sienna, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Padre Pio, etc were alive today what would they do about the situation we are in today?
    What "group" would they belong to?
    Would they belong to the home aloners, the sedevacantists, the SSPX, the SSPV, CMRI, the FSSP, etc?

    I do not think there are any right or wrong answers; it's pure speculation. Looking forward to your responses!

    :)
    This is probably the most interesting question I have ever read in these forums. I'll stick my neck out there and get it started...

    Outside of including St Anthony of Padua (The hammer of heretics) Fulgentius, Prosper, you have named some very outspoken saints who while hating heresy loved the heretic for God's sake and prayed for them...

    Cannot see in any way how these saints would have not been SCREAMING from the rooftops. It is crystal clear that what has been proclaimed for 17 centuries is not what is being proclaimed today. It is, as they say, a deeper understanding or clearer sense of what has been proclaimed, so in reality is the same. But we know that a deeper understanding is condemned by the Catholic Church.

    I would say they would hold the sede vacante position ( no such thing as a sedevacantist, but I get the moniker), however they wouldn't hold the minority opinion (salvation via implicit faith, BoD, ignorance) matter of fact they would condemn that position as false, IMO, unlike the independents today that claim the minority is the majority and claim it is Church teaching.

    BTW, "home-aloner" is a grammatically incorrect word made up by a facetious worldly priest. Some cannot make it to a chapel and some decide not to go because of conscience, but one thing is for sure in there defense, they don't PUSH IT that position on people.




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  • I think there are saints alive today and probably a few in every group. :)

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  • Hello everyone,

      I've been speculating on this topic for quite a while now. If St. Augustine, St. Athanasius, St. Nicholas, St Catherine of Sienna, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Padre Pio, etc were alive today what would they do about the situation we are in today?
    What "group" would they belong to?
    Would they belong to the home aloners, the sedevacantists, the SSPX, the SSPV, CMRI, the FSSP, etc?

    I do not think there are any right or wrong answers; it's pure speculation. Looking forward to your responses!

    :)
    I don't think there are any right or wrong answers either (just probability). It certainly helps to know what certain Saints believed as individuals. I doubt any would be within the Novus Ordo structure (this rules out the FSSP, St. Benedict Center and others). They would be actively resisting the Novus Ordo (whether they be Sedevacantists or not). I doubt many at all would be in communion with any group that believed a person could attain salvation if they died without conversion to the Catholic faith (or at ldied without holding the essential mysteries of the faith explicitly).
    Catholic Encyclopedia – Heresy, 1913: The Pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be Pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church.

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  • Saints are not a thing of the past, SaintsSoaring.

    God raises up saints in all times. Just because we don't notice them doesn't mean there are not there and having to make these very decisions today.  Every saint acts according to God's Will for him and his present circumstances of life.

    There is a lot of confusion today and I believe that the saints must struggle with this confusion, and hopefully through God's grace do what is required of them.

    As for HomeAloner. There is much misunderstanding of this term.  It is not because it's too far to travel to attend Mass that makes a HomeAloner.   I understand that it does not consist in any other belief than that the Holy Mass no longer is offered anywhere in the world, that there is no priesthood, no hierarchy that the HomeAloner person or family is one of the only real surviving Catholics. I believe no saint would ever believe that.

    Some saints disagreed with each other on who was the pope, and other matters of theology. Saints can be wrong in their decisions. It is their love of God and their willingness to do His Will that makes him a saint. So what they decide today carry vary from saint to saint. I'm not laying any bets.

    But I agree with Last Days that a saint would/will not choose Vatican2church.


     

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