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If Cdl. Kasper is Right, Pope Benedict is Probably Still Pope
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    If Cdl. Kasper is Right then Pope Benedict is Probably or Surely still Pope


    Yesterday, LifeSiteNews reported:

    "Cardinal Walter Kasper – a close collaborator of Pope Francis – has expressed concern over a possible attempt at removing the current Pope from office but makes it clear that 'a forced resignation would be invalid.'”
    [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/cardinal-kasper-a-forced-resignation-of-pope-francis-would-be-invalid#ampshare=https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-kasper-a-forced-resignation-of-pope-francis-would-be-invalid]

    In September, Reuters made the same statement saying that if pressure is put on "Pope Francis to resign [it] could make it difficult, if not impossible, for him to do so, Church experts say.":

    “'The pope has the right to freely resign. That’s what the canon says. The doubt is whether the situation Francis is in now really allows for a free choice because there is a political faction in the Church trying to force it,' said Nicholas Cafardi, former dean of Duquesne University School of Law."

    “'I don’t see how (the pope can resign freely) when you have people campaigning for it,' said Cafardi, who is also a former member of the Board of Governors of the Canon Law Society of America."
    [https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1LN1IL#ampshare=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-abuse-law/can-the-popes-accusers-force-him-to-resign-idUSKCN1LN1IL]

    If Kasper, Reuters and canon law expert Cafardi are right that it is "difficult, if not impossible" for a pope to resign "if a political faction in the Church if trying to force it" then Pope Benedict XVI probably, if not for sure, is still Pope which would mean Francis is not a valid or real pope.

    Was there "a political faction in the Church trying to force" Benedict to resign which put into "doubt... whether the situation [Benedict was] in... really allow[ed] for a free choice" as Cafardi said to Reuters?

    Was Benedict's stepping down "a forced resignation [which] would [make it] invalid" according to Kasper?

    Was there "a political faction in the Church trying to force" Benedict to resign?

    Respected pro-gay Italian journalist Emiliano Fittipaldi, one of two journalists charged in the Vatileaks trial in the Vatican court for obtaining confidential Church papers, inferred that "a political faction in the Church [was] trying to force" Benedict to resign:

    “Ratzinger [Pope Benedict XVI]... was very traditionalist and conservative... but he did important things. The things he did in relation to pedophilia, which was not much, but double the time for prescribing crimes in the Vatican, sent away almost 600 priests in a few years. The incredible thing is that Francis did a lot less."

    "... The story of the gay lobby has... importance in the Vatileaks and the dismissal of Pope Ratzinger... He destroyed the careers of those who were with them. To stop this group, a group of supporters of Ratzinger began to issue a series of documents, which was called Vatileaks... He destroyed the careers of those who were with them. To stop this group, a group of supporters of Ratzinger began to issue a series of documents, which was called Vatileaks. I can say this shock, this war of [Vatileaks] documents led to the end of Ratzinger."

    "... Ratzinger made... war against pedophilia... [h]e just started and resigned."
    [https://www.comunidadeculturaearte.com/emiliano-fittipaldi-para-francisco-a-pedofilia-e-uma-questao-secundaria/]

    On September 26, the liberal Maria Antonietta Calabrò, who is considered a well-informed and highly respected Italian journalist, reported another link to Vatileaks related to Benedict's resignation which was an "2012 obscure threats after a trip to China of another prelate [pro-gay Cardinal Paolo Romeo]. And that document ended up in the first Vatileaks.":

    [T]he predecessor of Francis, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI, also a extensor of an open letter to Chinese Catholics, received at the beginning of 2012 obscure threats after a trip to China of another prelate. And that document ended up in the first Vatileaks scandal.”
    [Italy’s HuffPost (link), ESTERI  26/09/2018 16:25 CEST  |  Aggiornato26/09/2018 16:26 CEST  Papa Francesco, il caso Viganò e il “segno di Dio” che ha accelerato l’accordo con la Cina]

    According to a commenter on the Catholic Monitor this "obscure threats after a trip to China of another prelate' caused "Benedict XVI [to] renounce [resign]":

    "Cardinal Dario Castrillón Restrepo, who was an extremely important Cardinal especially during JP II's & Benedict XVI's pontificates, and was a key negotiator during several world crisis like the cold war, was interviewed by Colombian Television Channel "Caracol". The video was uploaded on youtube May 10, 2018 and Cardinal Dario passed away May 18, if I remember correctly. So, this interview was very timely, only a few weeks before his death. In that interview, Cardinal Dario admits that he was the one who had received a very painful letter "written in chinese" which urged him to hand-deliver the letter to the Holy Father (Benedict XVI). Cardinal Dario said the letter contained the most horrific threats beyong imagination. So much, that it was too much for the Holy Father to bear and for that reason, said the Cardinal, His Holiness Benedict XVI renounced. Cardinal Dario says Benedict XVI renounced only months after he read the letter. He mentioned that after he read the letter, both Cardinal Dario and His Holiness Benedict XVI vowed to keep it a secret between the two, but Cardinal Dario said that 'someone knew and told everyone.'"

    "So, the question about China being involved? Hmm..very likely?? FYI, the link to the video interview on youtube says the video is no longer available in our country (U.S.)"
    [https://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2018/09/is-there-vatican-gay-lobby-and-chinese.html?m=1]

    What did the media report about this "2012 obscure threats after a trip to China of another prelate" and about that prelate: pro-gay Cardinal Romeo?

    The radical gay New Ways Ministry, who are notorious dissenters according to a 2011 US Bishops statement, revealed in 2012 that Cardinal Paolo Romeo apparently was part of the Vatican gay lobby:

    GayStarNews reports:

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    “Three Italian Catholic cardinals have agreed to prayer vigils held by the religious group Gionata for the victims of gay hate and discrimination for the first time.“LGBT groups will pray for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in Milan, Florence and Palermo, in Sicily as part of the International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia (IDAHO) to be celebrated . . . in an estimated 100 countries around the world. . . .

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    “Cardinal Paolo Romeo, in Palermo, . . . [has] backed it, even though he banned the vigil last year. The liturgy there will be celebrated at 9pm . . . in the San Gabriele Arcangelo church.” [https://www.newwaysministry.org/2012/05/17/three-italian-cardinals-support-prayer-vigils-for-international-day-against-homophobia-and-transphobia/]
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    The pro-gay Romeo, after coming out of the closet about supporting LGBT “liturgy,” in China, according to news reports, spoke of an assassination threat on Pope Benedict XVI to “Italian businessmen and Chinese representatives of the Catholic Church” according to the Telegraph in 2012:

    “Cardinal Romeo reportedly made the startling prediction of the Pope’s death during a trip to China in November 2011.”

    “He seemed so sure of the fact that the people he spoke with, including Italian businessmen and Chinese representatives of the Catholic Church, were convinced that he was talking about an assassination attempt.”

    “… The extraordinary comments were written up in a top-secret report, dated Dec 30, 2011, and delivered to the Pope by a senior cardinal, Dario Castrillon Hoyos, a Colombian, in January.”

    “The Vatican has reportedly opened an investigation into the claims.”

    “The report was written in German, apparently to limit the number of people within the Vatican who would understand it if it was inadvertently leaked.”

    “It warns of a “Mordkomplott” – death plot – against Benedict.”

    “‘The story was broken on Friday by an Italian daily, Il Fatto Quotidiano, with the headline ‘Plot against the Pope – he will die within 12 months'”.

    “The newspaper, which has a reputation for scoops, published a page from the confidential report [Vatileaks]. ‘During his talks in China, Cardinal Romeo predicted the death of Benedict XVI within 12 months. His remarks were expressed with such certainty and resolution that the people he was speaking to thought, with a sense of alarm, that an attack on the Pope’s life was being planned,' the paper reported.”
    [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9073811/The-Pope-will-die-within-a-year-Vatican-assassination-fears-revealed.html]

    The newspaper with "a reputation for scoops" II Fatto Quotidiano, Fittipaldi and Calabrò appear to be linking Vatileaks to strange happenings against Benedict.

    Were Vatileaks and the Vatican financial scandal as well as the Vatican gay lobby tied together as the causes that "led to the end of Ratzinger [Pope Benedict XVI]"?

    Apparently, Vatican expert Dr. Taylor Marshall says that if Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano is telling the truth then Fittipaldi's inference appears to be true.

    On August 27, author and philosopher Marshall on YouTube in the video titled "Dr. Taylor Marshall ties together Vatican financial scandal with homosexual activity" summarized what led to Pope Benedict XVI's resignation and Pope Francis's papacy:

    If Vigano is telling the truth then the Vatican gay lobby paired with the Vatileaks financial scandal apparently caused Pope Benedict XVI's resignation and it appears that Pope Francis has "reinstated and promoted" all those who brought about the resignation.

    Marshall, on YouTube, summarized what led to Benedict's abdication:

    "First of, Vigano blew the whistle on money laundering."

    "Two, the accusations of money laundering leads to the Vatileaks scandal."

    "Three, the Vatileaks scandal leads Benedict to form a secret investigation with three cardinals."

    "Four, those three cardinals expose moral rot, sexual deviancy, that is paired up with financial irregularity."

    "This is what moves the Pope to resignation
    . And just to make sure there is enough pressure on him to do it and do it quick something funny goes on with the Vatican Bank beginning on January 1, 2013."

    "And it seems the powerful cardinals within Vatican City wanted it to happen fast because they don't want the 300 page dossier released to the public because there is moral scandal in those pages."

    "That binder was left with Pope Francis, but nothing has been done. And what we see is that those who were oppose to Benedict XVI theologically, but also on administration, have been reinvolved, reinstated and promoted."

    Here is more evidence that Benedict was forced or pressured to resign.

    Akacatholic.com reported that evidence points to financial blackmail being involved in the Benedict abdication who appeared to be attempting to uncover "financial improprieties.":

    "An article by Italian journalist Maurizio Blondet is making the rounds alleging that Pope Benedict XVI was blackmailed into abdication by forces allied with SWIFT (the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication), which had a hand in the shutdown of ATM and bank card services at the Vatican in January of 2012."
    "According to Blondet:

    There was a blackmail of Benedict XVI, coming from who knows where, through SWIFT. The underlying reasons for this have not been clarified, but it is clear that SWIFT has intervened directly in the management of affairs of the Church..."

    "...It strikes me as interesting that more attention isn’t being paid to the role played by Ronaldo Hermann Schmitz, the acting President of the IOR [Vatican Bank] Board at the time, given his ties to Deutsche Bank."

    "I mean, one would think that the former Deutsche Bank Executive Director, even if unable to leverage his contacts within the German banking giant to forestall such a drastic move, would have at the very least been well aware of what was coming and could have perhaps taken steps to secure the services of another financial institution, as happened in short order soon afterwards."

    "This leads me to wonder where Ronaldo Hermann Schmitz’s own interests may have lied as this was taking place."

    "Let me be clear; I have no information implicating Schmitz in any nefarious activity; I am simply making common sense observations and asking questions that, curiously enough, have apparently never been addresses by those in the media; in spite of the extensive coverage these events received."

    "In any case, one is still left to wonder what motivated Gotti Tedeschi’s removal."

    "Given that the reform of the IOR [Vatican Bank], for all intents and purposes, was all but halted while interim President Schmitz acted as caretaker until a new President could be found, one might assume that this interruption alone was the primary motive."

    "It seems rather clear for reasons addressed below, however, that the motive went well beyond simply protecting the interests of those whose financial improprieties Gotti Tedeschi was laboring to uncover, making it seem far more likely Gotti Tedeshi’s demise was undertaken in order to set in motion the events that would secure the abdication of the man who appointed him."

    "Circumstantial evidence strongly attesting to this being the case can be found in the fact that the Vatican reached an agreement with a Swiss firm to resume ATM and other bank card transactions effective February 12, 2013, just one day after Benedict XVI announced his intention to abdicate.

    Indeed, as far as I can tell, nothing of note had changed between the cessation of bank card operations on January 1st and their resumption on February 12th relative to the Vatican Bank’s compliance with international banking standards. Rather, the only noteworthy thing to change was the status of Benedict’s pontificate."

    "Further evidence suggesting that the motives for Gotti Tedeschi’s removal extended beyond mere financial concerns." [https://akacatholic.com/money-sex-and-modernism/]

    Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church. [/font][/size]
    "I think that he [Pope Benedict] was pushed... he semi-resigned... he didn't completely resign, he semi-resigned... he made way for another pope to take his place... but he kept, nevertheless, the white habit, he kept various things of the Papacy." - Bishop Williamson

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    Re: If Cdl. Kasper is Right, Pope Benedict is Probably still Pope
    « Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 01:01:48 AM »
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    Antipope Bergoglio’s Lutheran Puppetmaster, Cardinal Walter Kasper, Is Sweating Like a Crocodile in a Purse Factory

    Cardinal Walter Kasper is sweating like a crocodile in a purse factory, folks.  He should be.  The Bergoglian Antipapacy, a Walter Kasper Production, is hurtling towards its end.

    Did you see Maike Hickson’s reportage at LifeSiteNews that Kasper is now saying that a “forced resignation” of Bergoglio would be invalid?  The unmitigated gall of these people….

    I’m telling you, folks, things are happening.

    First, to review, Antipope Bergoglio holds no juridical office to resign from.  As we have discussed many times before in this space, “Antipope” is NOT an office, it is a CRIMINAL STATUS.  Antipope Bergoglio can’t “resign” the Antipapacy any more than O.J. can resign from being a murderer.

    Second, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that Pope Benedict was under pressure to “quit”.  The Sankt Gallen Mafia, led by Cardinal Carlo Martini, told Pope Benedict in ARSH 2012 that his “time was up”.  Martini died on August 31, ARSH 2012 and Walter Kasper became the head of the Sankt Gallen Group.  Not long after on December 31, the Vatican was cut off from processing credit card transactions, a block which was **miraculously** lifted on February 12, the day after Pope Benedict announced his attempted partial faux-resignation.

    The question of “forced resignation” has exactly ZERO to do with Jorge Bergoglio, because Jorge Bergoglio is not now and never has been the Pope. Jorge Bergoglio is as much the Pope as I am.  You can’t resign an office that you never held.  The sentence, “Jorge Bergoglio resigned the papacy” is EVERY BIT AS NONSENSICAL as the sentence, “Kim Kardashian resigned the papacy.”  Jorge Bergoglio only needs to be PHYSICALLY REMOVED.  That’s it.  No trials, no resignations, nothing.  Just give him a change of clothes, and send him packing back to Argentina.

    Back to Cardinal Walter Kasper, across the transom came this little jewel, Kasper’s book on the glories and wonders of Luther.  Folks, you don’t even need to read the book.  Just read the blurb on the back cover:

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    There are few historical figures in memory even after 500 years, friend or foe, who were as influential as Martin Luther. In the course of 500 years Martin Luther was viewed in many different ways: Luther as a reformer, Luther as a church father of Protestantism, Luther as a champion of reason and freedom, Luther as a brave German national hero, and many other images assigned to Luther. For Catholics, Luther has long been one of the heretics par excellence, and responsible for the split of the Western Church and its consequences-at least up until today. This thinking is now over. The Catholic Luther research in the twentieth century brought a significant shift in understanding Luther. Luther is now recognized for his insights and there is a more equitable judgment on the schism. There is now more of an understanding and ecumenical spirit. Cardinal Walter Kasper carefully presents these themes in his latest work, explores his understanding of Martin Luther and his contributions that could not be imagined 500 years ago, but are now in the forefront of a new ecumenical spirit. Various chapters in this book speak of the end of the confessional age, Luther in the spirit on modern times, ecumenical discovery of catholicity, and an ecumenism of charity.
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    Antipope Bergoglio sounds like a Lutheran because he is parroting what his puppetmaster, Kasper, tells him to say.  Kasper is a Lutheran.  If you read J. Michael Miller’s dissertation, you will understand what the agenda is and has been for over 50 years among the Germans: dissolve the Papacy by “fundamentally transforming” the papacy into a “collegial, synodal shared Petrine ministry”, Lutheranize everything. And as a bonus, get a cut of that sweet, sweet Lutheran Kirchensteuer money.  The Freemasons giggle with glee, and satan squeals with delight.

    Just for fun and review, here is a small collection of quotes from Luther.  The man was a psychopath demoniac pervert.  Full stop.[/font][/size]
    "I think that he [Pope Benedict] was pushed... he semi-resigned... he didn't completely resign, he semi-resigned... he made way for another pope to take his place... but he kept, nevertheless, the white habit, he kept various things of the Papacy." - Bishop Williamson


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    Re: If Cdl. Kasper is Right, Pope Benedict is Probably Still Pope
    « Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 08:56:05 AM »
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  • I am not convince either of them are Pope.  But if I had to bet money on one of them it would be Francis, since B16 resigned and 11 months later confirmed to the press that speculation about his resignation being forced was nonsense.

    B16 behaves like a retired Pope.  He has had almost 6 years to tell us the truth and we have heard nothing.  So I reckon he resigned because he wanted to resign.

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    Re: If Cdl. Kasper is Right, Pope Benedict is Probably Still Pope
    « Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 10:32:24 AM »
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  • Neither one is Pope.

    First forced resignation goes back to Cardinal Siri being blackmailed to step down so they could install Roncalli.

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    Re: If Cdl. Kasper is Right, Pope Benedict is Probably Still Pope
    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2019, 11:10:15 AM »
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  • I think the Resignationists will become the new "Paul VI is still alive" group when Bennie dies.  
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17


     

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